“We need to cross your streams. We need to have a full Ghostbusters moment.”

In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their conversation with Evante Daniels — unpacking the metaphor of “crossing streams” and what it reveals about silos, purpose, and building cultures that last.

They explore why organizations often keep departments, generations, and perspectives separate—and what becomes possible when you bring them together with intention.

You’ll Hear:
Why Silos Aren’t the Enemy – Jerome explains that silos exist for a reason—but the problem is when they become walls. Storytelling becomes the bridge.

Purpose Breaks Through – When people share why their work matters, others listen differently. Julienne and Jerome share how personal stories humanize strategy and reframe workplace dynamics.

What Happens When Streams Cross – A retreat story brings it to life: when research and sales teams shared the personal why behind their work, respect, empathy—and collaboration—followed.

A Question for Leaders – Are you creating space for departments to connect through story? Or are you still hoping they’ll “just work it out”?

As Julienne says: “We have to take a pause and think about who we’re mixing up.”

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