"That’s the only reason you’re in this office.”

In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their powerful conversation with Charles Bernard—zeroing in on one pivotal moment: a leader choosing to elevate a quiet voice in the room. That moment not only launched Charles’s career in sales—it reshaped his sense of self.

In this debrief, our hosts explore what happens when someone sees potential in us before we see it in ourselves—and how leaders can create those moments for others.

You’ll Hear:

The Power of Advocacy – How a single act of recognition transformed Charles’s trajectory and instilled lasting confidence.

Who Gets to Speak? – Why organizations need to go beyond the same familiar voices to tell their true story—and what’s lost when they don’t.

A Prompt for Leaders – Are you the person elevating new perspectives, or sticking to the usual suspects? What stories are you missing?

A Personal Reflection – Jerome shares a moment when someone did the same for him—and how it shaped his ability to speak up and belong.

As Julienne puts it: “We need to check our assumptions—what valuable input are we not gathering because we’ve already written a script about someone?”

Learn more and listen to Charles Bernard’s full episode HERE

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