Heat of Command-Mastering the Art of Fire Service Leadership

Leading on Empty


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In this raw and relatable episode of the Heat of Command Podcast, Kyle and Kerry return from a short break to tackle a tough but vital topic: how to lead authentically when you’re physically, emotionally, or mentally drained. Whether you're burned out, overwhelmed, or simply "not feeling it," they unpack what it means to show up as a leader without faking it—and why sometimes good leadership looks different during hard seasons.

They explore the impact of organizational culture, how to prevent burnout, and why leading at home is just as important—if not more—than leading at work. This episode dives deep into leadership during personal lows, creating support systems, and embracing vulnerability without compromising professionalism. It’s for anyone navigating the tension between personal wellness and professional expectations in high-demand environments.

Key Themes:

  • Authentic leadership during personal struggles
  • Organizational culture and burnout prevention
  • Empowering your team to lead when you can’t
  • Why your why matters most when motivation fades
  • Leadership outside the firehouse

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Heat of Command-Mastering the Art of Fire Service LeadershipBy Kyle Matousek and Kerry Henderson