In this month's episode, Mike Ruthenberg interviews South Dakota State Director Shirlee Meier. She has faithfully persisted with Convention of States for over 11 years, building relationships with legislators, training up a local team, and persevering in a tough environment. Shirlee shares her personal story of why she chose Convention of States, how her team preps for legislative testimony, and how she deals with the rural nature of her state. Mike is the Executive Grassroots Officer for Convention of States.

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