This audio snippet comes from around the 37 minute, 30 second mark in episode five of Activist #MMT with Patricia Pino. Patricia and I discuss Keynes' booklet How To Pay For The War (as used by Winston Churchill's U.K.), Sam Levey's 2019 paper Modern Money and the War Treasury (regarding how the U.S. Treasury financed WWII), and what these papers have to teach us regarding financing the Green New Deal.