Ted Costa joins Kate and they talk about the HBO documentary "Leaving Neverland" and how upsetting yet awakening it is. They also discuss how cool it was that Oprah did an after segment called "After Leverland" where she interviewed the two sexual abuse victims, Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck plus film maker Dan Reed, and gave them all the space to be heard. They then get into Sophia the Robot, and Kate claims first dips on getting to be one of her best friends. Oh, and birds are meant to fly, get them out of cages now. Thanks #Petco

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