Leonard "Lenny" Rips joined me to talk about comedy as self defense; Joan Rivers giving him his first break; The Mac Davis Show; George Burns; Van Dyke & Company; Bob Einstein; Andy Kaufman; Redd Foxx; Star Wars Holiday Show; Angie; Goodtime Girls; Bosom Buddies; Rodney Dangerfield; 13 13th Avenue, Frankenweenie; What A Country; Full House; Top of the Heap; Me and the Boys; Can't Hurry Love; Blues Brothers Animated Series; Payne; Fast Food Films; The Lot; Holland Taylor; I'm With Her; the generosity of Joan Rivers