As Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer calls for the UK government to reveal a lockdown exit strategy, the podcast looks at one country already lifting some restrictions. In Denmark, children up to the age of 11 are returning to school after a month out of the classrooms. The country was one of the first in Europe to impose self-isolation and boasts one of the lowest infection rates on the continent. But is it moving too fast? We speak to Aarhus University’s Ida Wentzel Winther, who has been studying the effects of the lockdown on families.

Donald Trump, himself beleaguered by criticism for his response to the coronavirus pandemic, has announced the US will cease payments to the World Health Organisation. The president said the international body - to which the US pays around $400m per year - had mismanaged the coronavirus pandemic, and accused it of a ‘cover up’. The Evening Standard’s US correspondent David Gardner joins The Leader podcast to explain why the president’s actions are ‘classic Donald Trump’ - and what it means for the international effort to fight Covid-19.

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