Jess Miles speaks to Lisa Mckenzie, author of 'Getting By: Estates, Class and Culture in Austerity Britain' about the impact of lockdown on working class people and what lessons we have learned and should be learning.

Find out more about the book: https://policy.bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/getting-by

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