Reality TV fanatic, Stephen Bailey is trying to prove to Radio 4 favourite, Zoe Lyons that there are so many life and societal lessons to be learnt from reality television so as they take a "cultured" look at pop culture, they kick off with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and explore what happens when you bring up your friend's partner during a heated dinner conversation - as they ask, is it ever okay to talk about the husband?

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