Let’s Talk Data

In this future-facing episode of Let’s Talk Data, host Emma Crabtree sits down with Rob Daly, Lead AI Specialist at Anamana, founder of Mimir, and a former neuroscientist-turned-data consultant, to unpack the evolving intersection of AI, healthcare, and data ethics.

Rob shares how his deep technical background and passion for human-centred innovation have shaped his approach to building AI systems that empower, not replace, people.

Together, they explore the real-world implications of disinformation, the ethics of large language models, and why cultivating a data-driven culture requires far more than dashboards and models. From the future of work to the critical skills data professionals must develop (like storytelling, critical thinking and curiosity), this is a must-listen for anyone navigating the fast-moving world of data strategy.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• What “decision intelligence” really means -  and how it differs from data science
• Why critical thinking is essential in the age of AI and algorithmic news feeds
• The power (and danger) of large language models in mental health, misinformation, and education
• How to embed a true data culture inside your business - including three simple frameworks to start with
• The rise of “AI washing” in tech marketing - and what companies must stop doing
• What data leaders can learn from the failures of siloed systems in healthcare
• How dopamine-driven platforms like TikTok hijack attention — and how data science is involved
• Why purpose-driven strategy matters more than ever in the AI era

Key topics discussed in this episode:

AI strategy, Decision intelligence, Data science careers, Disinformation, Data culture, LLM ethics, Digital health, AI in healthcare, Data-driven leadership, Tech regulation, Critical thinking, Curiosity in data

Key Moments:

00:00 – Introduction to Rob Daly

03:00 – Rob’s journey from neuroscience to AI

09:50 – Using predictive models in healthcare

14:30 – From startup to consulting: finding your mission

20:12 – Why data cultures fail (and how to fix them)

27:44 – The 3 overlooked tools every business needs

34:08 – AI vs reality: transparency, truth & fear

44:01 – Decision intelligence explained

54:17 – Tools, frameworks & use cases

01:02:21 – Disinformation, dopamine & data literacy

01:17:43 – Critical thinking in an AI-saturated world

01:26:12 – Must-have soft skills for data professionals

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

To learn more about Rob head to https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-daly-327621153/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

In this powerful episode of Let’s Talk Data, host Emma Crabtree is joined by Kay Khan, Chief Data & Analytics Officer and founder of KeyAnalytics, a female-led healthcare data consultancy on a mission to transform the NHS and wider healthcare systems through inclusive analytics, data empathy, and impact-led innovation.

With a career that spans telecoms, automotive, and now healthcare, Kay shares how her personal journey as a woman, mother, and leader deeply shaped her vision for what healthcare data can do.

From systemic issues in clinical data sharing to the pressing need for diverse talent pipelines, this conversation tackles the real-world impact of data on human lives.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why empathy and diversity are essential to effective healthcare analytics.
• The hidden barriers in data literacy across clinicians, patients, and systems.
• How KeyAnalytics is bridging the NHS analytics skills gap with real-world bootcamps and mentoring.
• What inclusive hiring truly looks like - beyond the DEI tick-box.
• How menopause, motherhood, and return-to-work journeys must be considered in female health data policy and workplace design.
• Why open data is a goldmine of untapped insight — and how Key Analytics is making it accessible.

Kay also shares the core pillars of her business: training, consulting, and open data platforms, and how each feeds into a purpose-driven strategy for healthcare improvement.

Connect with Kay via https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaybkhan/

KEY MOMENTS: 

0:00 Introduction to Kay Khan and Her Healthcare Data Analytics Journey

0:34 The Fundamental Changes Needed in Healthcare Data Sharing

1:06 Empathy in Healthcare: Beyond Quick Diagnoses

2:16 Kay's Professional Transition to Healthcare Analytics

3:53 Data Rich vs Information Poor: Healthcare Challenges

4:42 NHS Technology and Data Infrastructure Evolution

7:33 Patient Experience and Data Sharing Gaps

10:16 Data Literacy for Clinicians and Healthcare Professionals

12:42 Kay's Decision to Start Key Analytics

14:57 Key Analytics' Three Core Pillars: Training, Consultancy, Open Data

21:32 Diversity and Inclusion in Data and Tech

27:14 Supporting Women Returning to Workplace

36:57 Menopause in the Workplace: Research and Support

46:26 Proactive Healthcare and Preventative Care

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

Have you considered the hidden power that transforms ordinary data strategies into extraordinary business breakthroughs?" Rosanne Werner, Chief Executive Officer at XcelerateIQ, knows that the real magic happens when human connection meets technological innovation. 

In a world drowning in data, most companies miss the critical secret: people, not algorithms, drive true transformation. Imagine an approach where your team doesn't just consume data, but breathes life into every insight, where technology becomes an enabler of human creativity rather than a cold, mechanical process. 

Rosanne’s award-winning methodology proves that successful digital strategies aren't built on complex tools, but on understanding, engaging, and empowering people. By reimagining "soft skills" as powerful catalysts for change, she reveals how organisations can bridge the gap between technological potential and human capability, turning data from a corporate buzzword into a dynamic, living strategy that propels businesses into their most innovative future.

0:00 Intro

1:56 The Role of People in Data Transformation

6:17 Transition from Finance to Digital and Data

9:41 Challenges and Opportunities in Data Transformation

13:00 Embedding Data Strategy in Large Organisations

15:26 Tangible Outcomes and ROI of Data Adoption

17:09 Balancing Personal and Professional Life

35:14 The Power of Storytelling in Data

42:58 Personal Branding and Professional Growth

46:00 Future of Data and AI

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

Have you been using the power of personal branding to grow your career in data?

Rhea Sam, Data Scientist at Valtech, embodies this transformative potential. In the rapidly evolving landscape of technology, personal branding isn't just a buzzword, it's the secret to growing both your network and career potential. 

Rhea’s journey shows the power of turning technical expertise into meaningful stories that resonate beyond spreadsheets and algorithms. By embracing vulnerability, networking strategically, and understanding the ethical dimensions of AI, professionals can elevate their careers from mere data crunchers to visionary problem-solvers. 

The key lies in breaking down barriers, communicating with clarity, and recognising that technology's true potential isn't just in its complexity, but in its ability to create tangible, human-centric solutions. Whether you're a budding data scientist or a seasoned professional, your unique perspective can be the bridge between raw information and transformative innovation.

0:00 Rhea Sam's Journey into Data Science  

5:04 Hackathon Experience and Networking  

9:50 The Power of Data Science for Good  

12:13 Navigating AI Hype and Public Speaking  

31:17 Mentorship and Personal Branding  

37:18 Cultural Differences and Career Advice

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

Do you know what truly separates exceptional leaders from the rest? Zoe Kelly, Head of Data Engineering at Reward, journey reveals a powerful truth: leadership isn't about technical prowess alone, but about creating human-centered environments where data professionals can thrive. 

In a world obsessed with complex technologies and buzzwords, Kelly demonstrates that vulnerability, communication, and genuine connection are the real superpowers of data leadership. 

Her remarkable story of scaling a data team from three to seventeen members while navigating personal mental health challenges offers a blueprint for modern leadership. 

By prioritising psychological safety, continuous learning, and empathetic communication, she transforms data engineering from a purely technical discipline into a deeply human experience. Kelly's approach challenges traditional narratives, showing that the most innovative data strategies emerge not from tools, but from understanding and supporting the people behind the data. 

Her insights are a masterclass in authentic, transformative leadership.

0:00 Intro

2:56 Zoe's Journey into Data  

4:26 Evolution of Data and Leadership  

7:41 Balancing Leadership and Team Dynamics  

9:28 Challenges and Strategies in Data Leadership  

15:05 Job Descriptions and Industry Expectations  

18:39 Diversity and Inclusion in Data  

23:11 Mental Health and Remote Work  

31:36 Data in Golf and Personal Insights  

47:11 Lightning Round and Final Thoughts

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

How many unnecessary tech tools are silently draining your company's resources and potential?

Alex Oakden, Director at Scope3, cuts through the digital noise, sharing his provocative perspective on technology optimisation and sustainability in the modern business ecosystem. He exposes the "magpie syndrome" that leads companies to collect tech tools like shiny trinkets, warning against investments that don't drive core business objectives.

Drawing from his experiences at Google and in the startup space, Alex advocates for a radical approach to technological efficiency. He challenges leaders to critically examine their tech stacks, emphasising the need for clear communication between leadership and technology teams, and investing only in tools that genuinely improve business performance.

Through his work at Scope3, Alex reveals how sustainability and technological optimisation are not just cost-saving strategies, but fundamental drivers of business transformation. He offers insights into reducing technological waste, making smarter tech decisions, and aligning digital investments with meaningful business outcomes.

Tech Waste: The Game-Changing Strategy Every Innovative Company Is Adopting

0:00 Intro

2:21 Technology Waste and Procurement Challenges  

5:24 Evaluating Technology Needs and Overcoming Distractions  

9:42 Sustainability and Data Efficiency  

15:10 Transitioning from Google to Startups  

30:55 The Role of Data in Sustainability  

43:37 The Future of Data and AI in Business  

47:35 Quick Fire Data Round  

54:14 Final Thoughts and Advice

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

What if the future of innovation isn’t about choosing between human intelligence and artificial intelligence, but about them working together seamlessly?

In this episode, Sarah Schlobohm, Chief AI Officer at Zally®, shares her unique view on how AI is transforming the world.

She takes us through her journey from studying particle physics to leading AI strategy, showing how technical skills can drive business progress. Sarah breaks down the complexities of AI, discussing the fine balance between technological growth and ethical responsibility.

Drawing on her wide-ranging experience, she explores how AI is reshaping industries from healthcare to archaeology while stressing the importance of human-AI collaboration. She highlights the need for responsible AI development and the potential of new technologies to tackle big challenges.

A fascinating look at the future of AI, combining scientific expertise with strategic thinking and a passion for innovation.

0:00 Sarah’ Journey and Role at Zally®  

4:49 The Role of AI in Business and Industry Disruption  

8:49 Leadership and Communication in AI  

13:33 Challenges and Opportunities in AI Implementation  

20:10 The Future of AI and Ethical Considerations  

20:30 The Role of Data Quality in AI Success  

31:54 The Impact of AI on Business and Society  

32:18 The Role of Human and Machine Collaboration  

36:19 The Importance of Networking and Professional Development  

38:39 The Role of Data in Business Strategy

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

In this special one year anniversary episode, we’re flipping the script! To celebrate one year of Let’s Talk Data—and an incredible milestone of 100,000 YouTube subscribers—our usual host, Emma Crabtree, takes the guest seat. Stepping in as host is Mirai Talent’s very own marketing expert, Tayo Cottrell-Oriogun, who guides us through a reflective and insightful conversation.

Emma shares the journey behind the podcast’s success, the standout moments that made an impact, and the guests who have delivered unforgettable insights. We also dive into the world of recruitment, Emma’s expert advice for breaking into the data industry, and her experiences of living in Japan for six years, an adventure that shaped her career in unexpected ways.

With laughter, honesty, and plenty of behind-the-scenes stories, this episode is a must-listen for long-time fans and new listeners alike. Enjoy!

0:00 Celebrating Podcast Milestones and Role Reversal  

2:25 Reflecting on the Podcast's Success  

5:22 Guest Selection and Podcast Evolution  

8:01 Challenges and Impact of Data  

10:59 Leadership and Personal Growth  

34:29 Recruitment Insights and Advice  

38:47 Cultural Reflections and Personal Impact  

45:49 Lessons from Previous Work Experiences  

50:33 Quick Fire Data Round

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

How can data visualisation transform healthcare decision-making? What role do allyship and representation play in driving innovation?

In this episode, we’re joined by Shevon Licorish (he/him), Head of Data Visualisation & Innovation at the NHS, who shares his unique perspective on the power of data to create meaningful change in healthcare. Shevon takes us through his inspiring career journey navigating the challenges of being an international professional to establish himself as a leader in data analytics within the NHS.

He explores the critical role of data storytelling in empowering both patients and healthcare professionals to make informed decisions. With a passion for making data more accessible and engaging, Shevon highlights the importance of allyship, mentorship, and representation in fostering a more inclusive and impactful industry.

Additionally, he shares valuable insights on building psychological safety within data teams and leveraging cross-disciplinary collaboration to maximise impact.

This is a must-listen episode for anyone interested in the intersection of technology, analytics, and patient-centred innovation.

0:00 Career Journey and Challenges in the UK Workforce

4:59 Transition to the NHS and Career Progression

9:37 Importance of Data Visualisation in Healthcare

14:50 Engaging with Data Visualisation Beyond Healthcare

17:51 Challenges and Opportunities in Data Leadership Roles

25:15 The Role of Allyship and Mentorship in Data Careers

27:11 The Impact of Role Models and Representation

27:28 Strategic Career Planning and Networking

40:10 Quick Fire Data Lightning Round

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.

What does it take to stay ahead in the rapidly evolving world of AI? How can organisations use the power of artificial intelligence while balancing human decision-making?

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Michael Housman, a pioneering AI expert and self-proclaimed “data nerd” with over a decade of experience. Long before AI became mainstream, Michael was shaping the field, but with the rise of generative AI, especially ChatGPT, his career skyrocketed, making him a sought-after global speaker.

Michael shares his insights on the hottest topics in AI, from organisational adoption to the evolving relationship between humans and machines. Known for his infectious energy and ability to make AI accessible, he bridges the gap between cutting-edge tech and real-world impact.

We dive into the key challenges and opportunities in AI, explore how businesses can successfully integrate this technology, and discuss the future of machine learning. Whether you're an AI enthusiast, a business leader, or just curious about where the field is headed, this conversation is packed with valuable insights.

An exciting discussion on the intersection of AI, innovation, and the future!

1:11 Data Journey and Career Transition

4:38 Adapting Communication for Different Audiences

8:14 The Importance of Data Fundamentals

13:39 Challenges in Organisational Adoption of AI

20:54 Public Speaking and Career Development

32:23 Future of AI and Its Impact on Industries

40:42 Balancing Technology with Human Interaction

44:10 Combining Human and Machine Decision-Making

48:01 Quick Fire Data Lightning Round

55:03 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

For more information head to https://www.miraitalent.com/

To learn more about Michael Housman head to https://michaelhousman.com/

Welcome to “Let’s Talk Data”, a deep dive into the transformative realm of data with the trailblazers of this disruptive industry.

Your host Emma Crabtree explores the latest trends and developments in the data sector, while also delving into the personal stories of these data pioneers.

They reveal how they harness data, not just in business, but in shaping their everyday lives, from optimising daily routines to making data-informed decisions. You'll hear about their motivations, role models, and how they plan to use their position to innovate, inspire and influence change.

Many companies today are still missing the golden opportunity to unlock true potential with their data. Our conversations will shed light on this untapped potential as well as the pivotal role that data professionals play in driving progress.

“Let’s Talk Data” is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge, providing a front-row seat to the future of data-driven insights and innovations.