"Minds do not open from the outside through force.."

In fact, we are the only people who can change our own minds - we explore this and more in this episode as we delve into the neuroscience of influence - how the brain works as a social survival machine and not a computer, and what this means for persuading and influencing people in the workplace.

AI is creating a crisis of humility. We are increasingly using technology to handle the “heavy lifting” of critical thinking. The risk? We believe we understand complex problems better than we actually do.

We discuss what JonRobert calls the “illusion of explanatory depth.” where we confuse familiarity with mastery.

One simple solution: ask “how” questions. When you force yourself—or your team—to explain the mechanism of a decision, you quickly identify the gaps in your logic.

AI can propose strategies, but it cannot manage the social dynamics of execution. Humans still need to build the trust, align the incentives, and navigate the identity-based resistance to change. Yet the harder you push, the harder people resist. It is a fundamental law of human behavior called psychological reactance.

We have all been there. You present a perfect, logical case for change. You expect buy-in. Instead, you get defensive silence or active pushback.

But we also know that human minds do not open through force from the outside. They open from the inside. People are 90% more likely to adopt a change when they generate the reasons for it themselves.

If you want to move people, stop talking and start architecting the right conditions. The future of leadership is not about managing output; it is about managing human experience. As you move forward, remember that your brain and the brains of your team members are social survival machines. They crave belonging, they defend their autonomy, and they look to others to define acceptable behavior.

If you are a leader, your goal is to design a culture that satisfies the need for belonging while protecting individual agency. This means choosing your words with intent. There is no shortcut for doing the hard, messy work of understanding human dynamics. You cannot automate empathy, and you cannot outsource the development of trust. If you want to transform your organization, start by changing how you show up.

Don’t let the ease of AI replace the hard work of deep human thinking.

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• The human brain is a social survival machine, not a computer – we are rationalising creatures and seek out the data and evidence we want.
• Belonging is a survival instinct and while society has evolved, our patterns haven’t and our social nature matters.
• The paradox of persuasion comes into play in sustainable change, which is often compliance disguised as change.
• Our psychological reaction to persuasion is to defend our autonomy; changing minds requires opening them from the inside.
• The solution is self-generated persuasion, whereby we are more convinced by reasons we have come across ourselves = agency.
• Change requires a culture where people don’t have to try and fit in but aims instead for holistic belonging.
• Belongingness impacts people’s decisions and behaviour, e.g. social norm adherence, but norms can be misperceived.
• Engagement surveys in organisations do not ask the right questions to identify misperceived norms – making misperception public is impactful.
• AI brings many wonderful things to organisations and is paradigm-shifting for efficiency and scale, but it also entails the thesis-antithesis-synthesis dynamic.
• The challenge of AI is to accept that it can’t do everything better than we can; it is creating a crisis of humility and exacerbating the illusion of explanatory depth.
• Hasty decisions involving AI will come home to roost and leave ultimate responsibility to humans, who need to question (their) assumptions.
• AI can propose strategies, but people still need to buy into them – this involves social dynamics managed by human leaders to bridge the critical gap.
• Today’s leaders need to focus on three main things:
• help people understand that the human brain is not a logic machine
• take a persuasive/subtle approach to people (and change)
• understand that data does not exist in a vacuum and pay attention to messaging
• AI can be used to deliberately create the space and opportunities for people to hone their uniquely human skills and to encourage behaviour change.

Find out more about JonRobert and his work here :

https://influence51.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonrobert-tartaglione-ph-d-21b26770/

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

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"Imagine you are holding a glass of mud. Adding more water doesn’t make it drinkable; it just creates a bigger mess".

The narrative that AI will replace thousands of jobs is often a convenient excuse for poor management. Ryan and I challenge the narrative of mass AI-driven layoffs. He observes that in mid-sized and smaller businesses, the focus is increasingly on repurposing talent. If you have an employee doing a repetitive, low-value task, don’t fire them—give them the tools to do something that actually drives revenue or improves customer retention.

Many organizations are falling into the same traps they faced during the digital transformation era a decade ago, and fixing the tools and processes, but not looking at what it means for humans and human systems. When we treat humans as a cost to be eliminated rather than an asset to be upskilled, we lose the institutional knowledge that keeps a business alive. True ROI comes from augmenting human capabilities, not erasing them.

Successful AI implementation depends on returning to basic project management and strategic planning. Businesses often struggle because they treat AI as a “shiny object” rather than a tool that requires specific goals. Ryan highlights that the most effective approach begins with identifying quick wins and long-term objectives before selecting any technology. Proper governance, including data auditing and clear project requirements, must precede deployment to ensure the system delivers a positive return on investment.

Does your organization have a plan to reskill team members, or are you just looking at the headcount & productivity figures?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• Clients can’t make decisions quickly enough during AI rollouts to keep up with AI and often don’t have a plan due to shiny object syndrome.
• AI adoption requires a plan first, tools later - human-driven problems hold things up; strategy and context must precede upskilling and training.
• HITL should be everywhere or wherever needed to avoid AI drift - process(es) need(s) an owner, accountability and a feedback loop.
• An AI governance team must determine the requirements for a project and work backwards to make sure the criteria are in place.
• New jobs are cropping up, e.g. AI Officer, and rollout involves some trial and error to find bespoke solutions and bring value to a company.
• Collective budgeting/accountability models do not yet represent real collaboration; structure and authority must be in place.
• Adoption in large organisations is more difficult (logistics) and depends on the industry; small companies can factor in the human element more easily.
• The quiet cost of AI is leadership identity; AI leadership is not competent at present, so good employees need to be involved rather than the leaders.
• A company needs a reason to have AI, with measurables and goals – preparation is key, i.e. seeking help (early on) and conducting research.
• The biggest blind spot at C-Suite level is relying on headlines and listening to hearsay instead of thinking things through, resulting in rushed/failed projects.
• Despite a dearth of data, immediate future will likely see job losses, but new roles – and opportunities – will be created that bring more satisfaction.
• We must go back to basics and logic, using the smartest individuals who know what is going on inside the company to involve employees at an early stage.
• Constant experimentation will increase ROI and generate positive experiences.

Find out more about Ryan and his work here :

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-drumheller/

https://www.stellarhorn.com/

https://www.youtube.com/@DeclineinvitePodcast

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

"Most of us haven't touched our leadership system since we built it."

Anna and I discuss the concept of internal operating systems in leadership, how AI impacts leadership development, and practical strategies for transformation. We explore how beliefs, emotions, and behaviours shape leadership effectiveness and how to upgrade these systems for the AI era.

The biggest gap in leadership isn’t a lack of knowledge. It is the inability to execute what you know under pressure. We discuss this common trap: we assume that if a leader is intelligent, they will naturally adapt. The reality? Intelligence often reinforces rigidity. The very traits that drove a leader’s early success—like being detail-oriented or needing control—become the “shadow side” that creates a ceiling for their team.

One of the most significant insights from Anna's work is the gap between what leaders know and what they can execute under pressure. Many leaders possess the knowledge required to lead effectively, yet when faced with stress, they often revert to outdated behaviours rooted in their old operating systems. This disconnect can lead to frustration, burnout, and ultimately, transformation failures.

Simply acquiring knowledge is not enough. Leaders need to cultivate self-awareness and understand their internal operating systems to bridge this gap. This involves recognizing patterns of behavior that arise in high-pressure situations and consciously working to shift those patterns toward more effective responses. The onset of AI makes this even more visible.

Real growth requires more than a new training manual. It requires a hard look at the beliefs driving your decisions. If your default mode is control, AI becomes a tool to suffocate your team’s autonomy. If your default mode is “I must have all the answers,” AI becomes an echo chamber for confirmation bias. Stop using technology as a project to be managed, start treating it as a partner to be coached and focus on “psychological readiness” before deploying new tools.

Before you invest in the next piece of tech, have you upgraded the human system meant to oversee it?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• Failed transformations are due to people not processes, i.e. change management must address the human side.
• The architecture of internal operating systems is the fundamental problem and calls for rewiring of the leadership system.
• Seven components of a human operating system: beliefs, mindsets, emotions, thoughts, behaviours, values, and communication.
• Leaders rarely look at their inner system or change their ‘screen saver’ and find it difficult to execute under pressure to the level of what they know.
• An outdated operating system has control as its default and is not compatible with people leadership or fast-moving AI.
• Intelligent leaders have more expertise but are more resistant to letting go (of what they are most proud of/their strength).
• AI amplifies everything, whether positive or negative, such as a leader’s rigidity/ patterns.
• Shifts are required to lead in the AI era: slowing down, awareness, observing mindsets, being curious.
• AI is full of confirmation bias and humans are responsible for using it based on explicit instructions and high-quality input.
• ‘Upgraded’ leaders must embrace strategic discomfort as their starting point to build a ‘house of empathy’.
• This house of empathy is based on curiosity, care and courage to create individual leadership and a strong culture.
• Every leadership skillset involves an interplay of internal architecture; emotional literacy is required to scale it up in the team.
• Leaders’ blind spots tend to be overfocusing on technology, leaving people behind, and lacking psychological readiness for change (with AI).
• Leadership is a journey not a destination - we always have a choice and must ground ourselves through our values.

Find out more about Anna and her work here :

https://leaderwired.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/annabarnhillmcc/

[https://www.annabarnhill.com/]

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

Workplace culture is often portrayed as a harmonious collection of professionals working toward a shared goal with shared values. Yet, anyone who has spent significant time in corporate environments knows the reality is far more complex. Beneath the surface of official mission statements and team-building exercises, office dynamics are often defined by power plays, hidden agendas, and distinct personality types that can significantly impact a project’s trajectory.

Jonathon and I explore the prevalence of the “dark five” personality types within corporate structures, noting that certain traits are often rewarded by organisational systems. We look at how to identify and work with difficult personality types in the workplace, as well as practical strategies for leading through office politics and dynamics.

While sociopathy, defined by an absence of empathy, is often stigmatised, it functions as a necessary mechanism for high-stakes leadership, such as managing layoffs or major structural transitions. By distinguishing between sociopathic behavior and the more destructive, less useful traits of sadism and spitefulness, leaders can better navigate interpersonal challenges. These behaviors have deep evolutionary roots, making them persistent aspects of human social interaction that cannot be ignored or simply trained away through culture building.

Technology, specifically artificial intelligence, is rapidly altering the landscape of corporate influence. Tools that once required massive data science operations—like those used by Cambridge Analytica to manipulate political outcomes—are now accessible to individuals. This democratization of data manipulation is a significant concern for organizational security. The primary danger of AI in the workplace is not its intelligence, but its ability to be used for unethical ends by those who understand the system. Leaders need to ensure that every interaction with powerful AI agents is logged, tracked, and attributable to a specific user.

Understanding the “dark five” personality traits and their influence on corporate strategy is not just for HR or executive management; it is a vital skill for anyone leading change. When the political currents of an organization become too strong to ignore, the ability to identify the players and their underlying motives allows a leader to maintain their integrity while continuing to deliver results.

The modern leader must be an astute observer of human behavior, a pragmatic technologist, and a firm guardian of ethical processes. Ultimately, the goal for the integrity-minded leader is not to eliminate sociopathic traits—which is likely impossible—but to manage them effectively. The best defense is a combination of radical transparency and a clear understanding of human drivers. Leaders who spend their time fighting against the nature of their peers often lose; leaders who understand the nature of the game and adapt their strategy usually win.

What is the biggest “unspoken” personality challenge you have navigated in your career?

The main insights you get from this episode are :

• The many unethical stories from the corporate world are very relatable but never spoken about.
• The ‘dark five’ highly correlated personality types: sociopaths, Machiavellians, sadists, spitefuls, narcissists.
• Socipathy is helpful at C-suite level, whereas sadists and spitefuls are destructive in leadership and not useful in a business.
• Sociopaths are easier to manage than mixed-trait middle managers who are more diverse yet ambitious.
• The higher up the ladder, the more sociopathy and less of everything else there is; but sociopaths are unpredictable and good at hiding their traits.
• Evolutionary psychology overrides everything, pre-dates humans, and is a fundamental driver that should not be ignored.
• Dominance and submission are also relevant; there must be less dominance 30% of the time to prevent disengagement.
• There are multiple versions of manipulation and power games as well as (unspoken) differences in how they present in males and females.
• DEI can be difficult as the more diverse the workforce, the less likely they are to support each other (lack of affinity).
• Hero ideology cultivation or hero brand concept: narcissists do it because they have to and sociopaths do it because they will benefit.
• Monthly group meetings for praising and criticising is very constructive and motivational but requires trust and the right context.
• Notional team building will fail as teams are about personal connection and mentorship – and leadership with integrity.
• High-functioning sociopaths develop their own ethical and moral code to talk about things they don’t understand; they intellectualise.
• The biggest challenge for AI currently is knowing what the user wants and whether the response is ethical or not, despite its validity.
• AI guardrails for senior leaders are impossible as it is so fast-moving and rules slow things down.
• Basic principles of big system architecture also for AI: logging, monitoring, and recording; logs must also be reviewed by a human.
• Review requires an understanding of the basic human drivers and the ability to recognise cognitive dissonance.
• Learn to work with the traits in the team – acceptance of neurodiversity does not (yet) apply to the dark five personalities, yet they are valuable and must be understood.

Find out more about Jonathon and his work here :

https://www.nexoid.com/

https://www.corporatesociopathhandbook.com/

[https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathongrantham/]

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

"It isn’t complexity or technical challenge or some mysterious forces that are keeping us from fixing American healthcare… It’s fear"

The most talented individuals in high-stakes fields often reach a tipping point. They spend years honing technical skills, yet eventually realize that their expertise alone cannot solve systemic failures.

Dr. Larry Moss spent 25 years in operating rooms, holding children’s lives in his hands, before realising that the American healthcare system itself was failing the patients it aimed to serve. We discuss his journey from surgical precision to executive strategy and his mission to create healthier futures for the next generation.

Leadership is about moving away from the “heroic” surgeon model where one person controls every decision. In a large health system like the one Larry leads, success depends on leveraging the ideas and insights of thousands of employees. This is a difficult shift for someone wired for speed and precision. He admits that he is naturally impatient, yet he has learned that complex organizational change often moves at a pace that feels uncomfortable for those used to the immediate feedback of surgery.

Systems thinking requires a different definition of success. If a leader owns all the decisions, the system becomes a bottleneck. This distinction between having a profound impact for very few people and having a significant impact for a huge number of people = complexity vs. volume, and is key in leveraging the momentum for transformation.

Resilience is a concept often applied to individuals, but systems also possess a form of resilience. In the context of healthcare, this resilience can be a double-edged sword. When a system is doing the right thing, its persistence is an asset. When it is failing, that same persistence makes it incredibly resistant to reform. Breaking down these negative feedback loops requires leaders who are willing to act as change agents from within. They need to identify the leverage points in their own systems and use their agency to act on them.

When you want to change a system, look at the incentives. If your team is struggling to innovate, ask yourself: Are you rewarding them for the outcomes you actually want, or for the volume of activity you’ve always tracked?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• Ensuring children’s health is safeguarding the health of the entire country, economy and future.
• The transition from surgeon to CEO involves opposing core traits; decisiveness, individual mastery and control vs. the collective in leadership.
• Surgical procedures require a good decision at the time instead of a better decision over a longer time.
• Leaders must leverage collective intelligence with patience and fortitude to see it through.
• Distinction between having a profound impact for very few people and having a significant impact for a huge number of people = complexity vs. volume.
• It is only possible to make a difference inside a system; childhood is the best lever to bring about change in health (which is not medical care) and society.
• Trust, close collaboration and partnerships are essential to bring all factors together to create health and have an enormous impact on a life trajectory.
• The massive changes desired by society start in childhood (birth to age 5) and small interventions early on have an almost immeasurable impact 50 years later.
• Complicated and untenable problems in complicated and untenable systems require (economic) incentives to solve them, and a different model to do so.
• Solutions are obvious if everyone has the same goal, but they generally fall foul of a lack of will and courage to do the right thing.
• The privilege of a key leadership role provides a platform to show what it possible and issue a challenge to others.
• Unifying values and basic principles must remain the same against the backdrop of a collective vision (why) with different ways to get there (what and how).
• Systems are inherently very resilient and tend to continue in their modus operandi; fine line between changing them and having a positive infrastructure.
• Children’s healthcare requires a core mindset shift to being stewards of child health and taking accountability for it.
• Scaling holistic change would improve things for millions of people in radical service of humanity.
• Human happiness is being an agent to make somebody/something better; senior leaders should not be afraid of complexity, technical challenges or doing things differently.

Find out more about Larry and his work here :

larrymossmd.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/r-lawrence-moss/

https://www.nemours.org/

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

Modern leadership often feels like a race against an invisible clock. As organizations struggle with the rapid integration of AI and shifting market expectations, many executives find themselves physically present but existentially hollow.

The traditional advice of taking breaks or setting boundaries is no longer sufficient. Leaders need a new approach to energy management that prioritizes their core identity over the constant pressure to perform - leaders are making more decisions than ever with less certainty and diminishing time. This exhaustion is not just a symptom of overwork; it is a signal of a deeper disconnect.

Lena and I discuss how to use emotional regulation and human design to help leaders overcome exhaustion and reclaim their authentic power in the era of AI.

The “strong leader” myth is a primary driver of modern burnout. AI will soon perform 95% of our cognitive data processing. Senior leaders often deny - or are disconnected from - their emotions, outwardly exuding strength for the benefit of others.

If your leadership identity is built on being the “smartest person in the room” or the one who sees patterns first, you are at risk of an existential crisis. The new competitive advantage for leaders isn’t IQ. It’s consciousness and emotional regulation.

We are taught to suppress emotions, wear a brave face, and act with unyielding certainty. But this self-preservation mask is exactly what leads to exhaustion.

Lena Thompson highlights a critical reality: burnout isn’t just about what you do. It is about what you refuse to feel. When you stay in a job or relationship you have outgrown, that internal pressure compounds.

The fix isn’t another week off or a better calendar app. The fix is cultivating a relationship with your emotions. When you pause and label your frustration or impatience, you create space, space where you can move speeds and where better decision live.

Neuroscience suggests that our logical mind operates at just 5% of our potential. The remaining 95% is driven by subconscious patterns. If you only make decisions based on past data, you are destined to repeat the same predictable results. Human design can help executives understand their unique wiring. It’s not about labels or frameworks, but it’s about energy management.

Some leaders are built to work in bursts. Others are built to create consistent output. When you try to force a different energy model onto your team, you foster burnout and stagnation.

Try this strategy for this week:

Spend five minutes every morning without a screen. Connect with what you actually want to experience that day.

Stop checking your phone and start setting your intent.

What is one “old behavior” you are trying to break this month?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• It is often possible to build mental and physical resilience without having any control of emotions.
• Senior leaders often deny - or are disconnected from - their emotions, outwardly exuding strength for the benefit of others.
• Burnout develops over time as internal pressure builds into illness, depression, collapse.
• In the absence of open discussion of burnout in organisations, human design helps people connect to their emotions and understand themselves, impacting relationships, optimising energy and aiding decision-making.
• Energy management and consciousness in the corporate world help provide a better ‘view’, enabling life to respond to energy as opposed to struggles.
• Energy also affects decision-making and is far more effective than basing decisions on (binary) logic that offers repeat solutions based on past data.
• We are driven by subconscious patterns and developing our intuition teaches us how to trust our impulses.
• Amidst the constant cognitive pressure to deliver, the power of pause is undeniable, particularly in the age of AI when everything is immediate.
• Sometimes it is better to make no decision; and making decisions with awareness creates space to make a different choice.
• Stopping and recognising/feeling emotions builds the capacity to hold more pressure and gives us power over our emotions.
• Scaling human design in the corporate world requires more conscious leaders, or a realisation that things have to change and current tools don’t work.
• There is no limit to what human design can do in the corporate world: elevating consciousness, bringing our best selves to work, allowing us to be authentic and free.
• Taking time in the morning to connect to how we want our day to be programmes our minds to focus on what we want and redirects our brains.
• Reflecting in the evening will offer insight into how our responses differ and require less energy.

Find out more about Lena and her work here :

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lena-thompson1/

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

What happens when a company built on trust and purpose faces the immense pressure of quarterly profits?

Eric and I discuss why good companies go bad and explore the structural blueprint to keep your business mission-driven, soulful, and incorruptible for the long term. We go from story to story of human centric and purpose driven founders trying to combat the corrosive effects of financial gravity. We explore why “financial gravity” pulls good companies toward bad decisions and how leaders can protect their mission.

The companies that last aren't the ones that avoid pressure. They're the ones that decided early what they would refuse to trade away. This is an ethical and a leadership question. One of organizational soulcraft, and it's one that every single person listening gets to answer in some small way. In order to build orgs that are truly strong we need to pay special attention to the exoskeleton that separates inside from outside - this is the art of organisational soulcraft — designing the deep structural foundations that give organisations strength - governance.

This involves embedding values directly into the legal and structural foundation of a business. A central element of this blueprint is adopting a Public Benefit Corporation (PBC) status, which formally aligns the company’s purpose beyond simple profit maximization. We explore the importance of appointing mission guardians and utilizing board structures that ensure accountability to long-term goals rather than just quarterly financial reports. These mechanisms help protect the engine of value creation from outside interference.

Modern business often relies on a set of “best practices” that, ironically, can destroy shareholder value. Bundling cost, short term thinking and choosing convenience over mission is still very much the status quo, even if there are people that believe otherwise. This is the downwards pull of financial gravity

Profit should be redefined as the result of maximizing human flourishing. To sustain this, leaders must maintain a “culture bank” where every decision is an opportunity to make a deposit by acting in accordance with core values. The example of HEB, where a manager allowed customers to take necessary supplies during a power outage, illustrates how a strong internal culture empowers employees to act consistently without awaiting corporate permission. This operational coherence ensures that the company’s mission remains the guiding force in daily interactions.We all can and must act, and when individuals recognize they are not just victims of a system but are “traffic” within it, they can then reclaim the agency necessary to build and preserve truly meaningful organizations.

It is time to move past the myth of shareholder primacy and stop chasing the market. We need to start building engines that can sustain themselves, organizations that create more value than they extract. The future of our economy depends on our willingness to design better, more soulful institutions.

What is one structural change you could make this week to better protect your core mission?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• An incorruptible company must be structurally, intrinsically and permanently soulful.
• In the fiduciary hierarchy – customers, employees, shareholders – shareholder value is only created by serving the other two first.
• Building an ethos attracts loyalty to successfully grow a company, but the pull of financial gravity undermines this (i.e. making money without creating value).
• The golden goose is a recurring problem in our economy - systems should counteract human failings, not amplify them (i.e. kill the golden goose).
• The ability to operate the engine of a company is required to run it successfully; purpose-driven companies are proven to outperform others.
• Forces at work below the surface are experienced indirectly in a company but are very impactful and have a universal warping effect, e.g. ‘financial gravity’.
• The ‘art of organisational soulcraft’ = governance, but in accessible language to create the conditions to be incorruptible.
• Governance is foundational and the blueprint for the solution is composed of information that is widely available (but counter to shareholder primacy).
• A sound definition of profit is to maximise human flourishing, with leadership and operational techniques creating an aligned culture, a ‘culture bank’.
• The simple rule of a strong company culture is to only make deposits and never withdrawals from this culture bank.
• Trustworthiness is an asset with intangible value for customers; creating good stories becomes company lore.
• Individual agency is important in the face of destructive forces, as highlighted by the effort companies make to dispirit us.

Find out more about Eric and his work here :

https://www.incorruptible.co/

https://howisincorruptiblegoing.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/eries/

https://tryvirgil.com/

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

“We often think meetings are the problem. Usually, they’re a symptom of a bigger problem: a broken communication system.”

Poorly run meetings cost trillions of dollars every year yet there are multifaceted drivers for why we keep them as a comfort zone for ‘moving forward’. This powerful insight challenges us to look beyond the surface of meeting overload, beyond the binary concept of how much time we're spending and look at exactly how much it is costing us and why.

Consider the “visibility bias” : we often equate presence with productivity. Meetings are highly visible, making them status symbols rather than efficient tools. This bias fuels unnecessary meetings and hinders true progress.

Imagine an organization where 30-50% of meetings could be eliminated without negative consequences. While canceling meetings provides relief, the real change comes from employees redesigning what deserves to be a meeting

Applying a “product design” lens means intentionally crafting meetings. Just as you wouldn’t ship a product without user feedback and refinement, why do we tolerate poorly designed meetings that are our most expensive form of collaboration? This approach empowers teams to reclaim their time and focus on valuable synchronous interaction.

This strategy requires leadership buy-in and a psychologically safe environment for employees to decline meetings without guilt. It shifts the mindset from “busyness as a badge of honour” to “impact as a measure of success.”

What’s one “meeting legacy system” in your organization that needs a redesign?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

“We often think meetings are the problem. Usually, they’re a symptom of a bigger problem: a broken communication system.”

This powerful insight challenges us to look beyond the surface of meeting overload, beyond the binary concept of how much time we're spending and look at exactly how much it is costing us and why.

Consider the “visibility bias” : we often equate presence with productivity. Meetings are highly visible, making them status symbols rather than efficient tools. This bias fuels unnecessary meetings and hinders true progress.

Imagine an organization where 30-50% of meetings could be eliminated without negative consequences. While canceling meetings provides relief, the real change comes from employees redesigning what deserves to be a meeting

Applying a “product design” lens means intentionally crafting meetings. Just as you wouldn’t ship a product without user feedback and refinement, why do we tolerate poorly designed meetings that are our most expensive form of collaboration? This approach empowers teams to reclaim their time and focus on valuable synchronous interaction. AI reinforces ‘busyness’ and its role will depend how we enact it; AI often makes collaboration worse here as it offers an opportunity to cognitively offload hard work.

Applying these meeting strategies requires leadership buy-in and a psychologically safe environment for employees to question the impact and decline meetings without guilt. It shifts the mindset from “busyness as a badge of honour” to “impact as a measure of success.”

What’s one “meeting legacy system” in your organization that needs a redesign?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• Visibility bias: presence = productivity, but most of the real work takes place behind the scenes, and visibility = value, so meetings become a status symbol.
• The users of the meeting ‘product’ are attendees, but meetings are not generally designed with the user in mind – it tends to be a very poorly optimised product.
• A tangible metric is simply to ask users if the meeting was worth the time they invested, i.e. impact v effort, and what the organiser could do to improve it.
• Calendar cleanses offer temporary relief but no ownership for the users; ‘meeting doomsday’ involves employees proactively deleting meetings.
• Time savings come mostly from small changes that add up, e.g. five minutes shorter, or fewer attendees – this gives employees social permission.
• Meetings are a symptom of a broken communication system in which employees do not understand how they contribute to the bigger picture.
• AI reinforces ‘busyness’ and its role will depend how we enact it; AI makes collaboration worse as it offers an opportunity to cognitively offload hard work.
• There is a trend to over-index on tech, but we must be intentional and clarify how the AI is in service to the humans in the room.
• Collaboration overload and intensification of work with AI means that strategic collaboration will be required for specific types of output.
• Meeting design demonstrates leadership in an organisation, and the ability to rescue a meeting that is going badly.
• Leaders need to create a psychologically safe environment in which employees can tell leaders when the tech is not working.
• In the face of cognitive debt, we must use tech to become more strategic, and leverage AI to become more human, e.g. in terms of meeting schedules.
• Apply the rule of halves to one dimension of a dysfunctional meeting to trigger positive questioning and healthy conversation (with a potential domino effect).

Find our more about Rebecca and her work here :

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-hinds/

https://www.glean.com/work-ai-institute

https://www.rebeccahinds.com/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Your-Best-Meeting-Ever-Principles/dp/1399640305

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

It’s about creating white space in our brain, on our desk, in our inbox, on the desktop of our screens to reduce clutter..

While most leadership advice suggests adding more habits or tools, My discussion with Nell proposes that the most strategic action a leader can take is to subtract. We discuss a life's “forced stops,” which occur despite us feeling aligned and successful. Having a forced stop can be a pivotal moment, even in a fully aligned life; doing too much is dangerous to self and others.

This contrasts with the common belief that one must feel “empty” to realize a problem. Nell introduces her “Lead in 3D Framework” and “Subtract to Succeed” philosophy, which challenges the traditional view of adding more to achieve more. This draws on two decades of global development and humanitarian leadership experience. It helps high-performing leaders address a quiet crisis: they are achieving success on paper but are running on empty.

We explore the transformative power of subtraction, offering practical insights for leaders navigating an increasingly demanding world. The conversation delves into the impact of AI on work habits, the often-overlooked gender asymmetry in work-life balance, and the potential of regenerative leadership to combat exhaustion as a badge of seriousness. We explore practical methods for leaders to reconnect with their bodies, prioritize intentional space, and leverage their natural energy for sustainable impact.

The modern leader faces unprecedented pressures, often pushing them towards unsustainable levels of activity. The call to “subtract to succeed” offers a vital counter-narrative, proposing that true growth and lasting impact come from strategic removal, not endless addition. Leaders can listen to the subtle signals of their bodies and environments, intentionally create space, and reallocate their energy towards what truly matters.

This holistic approach, rooted in the interconnectedness of “me, we, and world,” fosters regenerative leadership that benefits not only the individual but also their teams, organizations, and the broader community. The journey begins with a simple act: choosing to believe in the reality that less, when done intentionally, ultimately brings more.

What one non-essential task or thought pattern could you subtract today to create more impactful space?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• Having a forced stop can be a pivotal moment, even in a fully aligned life; doing too much is dangerous to self and others.
• The AI world enables overwhelm – we must recognise that the infrastructure is designed to enthrall us and breaking away from it is difficult.
• A framework for recognising the reality of our bodily systems within systems of systems is helpful to connect me, we, and the world, opening up opportunities.
• Less is more but the human instinct is to add; the ‘subtract to succeed’ methodology uses the ‘stop, drop, and roll’ approach from fire safety:
• stopping in situ, gathering data, paying attention, taking stock
• dropping experimentally, getting curious, creating space
• rolling with the additional time and space, intentionally filling the vacuum
• There is a gender difference re subtraction – feminine energy understands the need to stop, masculine energy less so.
• Feminine energy is interconnected and more systematic, whereas masculine energy is linear, partly shaped by the current system and societal stereotypes.
• There is resistance to the shift from a linear, industrial approach to a more interconnected approach in workplace cultures (due to the illusion of control).
• Regenerative leadership understands that neither energy inputs and outputs nor rest are created equal, which speaks for the benefits of diversity.
• Extractive capitalism detracts from rest and undermines the neurology of and need for rest; it is imperative to select activities that bring us joy and energise us.
• Learning what individuals’ natural energy is enhances collaboration and delegation; subtraction is regenerative rather than extractive.
• The cognitive reframe for subtraction happens quickly because it is simple, has immediate tangible benefits and brings peace.
• Unhelpful thinking is very detrimental and leads to rumination as opposed to constructive thoughts – it is time to reclaim our brain power!
• A daily practice is transformative; we must believe that reality can be different and we choose our reality.

Find out more about Nell and her work here :

https://nell3d.substack.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nell3d/, https://www.nell3d.com/

Guest pass : https://nell3d.substack.com/guestpass

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect

Imagine a world where leadership ignites potential, turning $200 million losses into $3 billion profits.

A great conversation with Chris about transforming organisational performance, and moving beyond industrial-era practices. We explore the critical role of mood, leadership, and systems in fostering high-performing teams and how CEOs can navigate the challenges of the modern competitive landscape, including the impact of AI.

Successful organisational transformation depends on three crucial variables: mood, leadership practices, and systems.

Many organisations fail to realise their potential not due to bad people or poor tech, but bad practices. Transformation hinges on three levers: Mood, Leadership, and Systems, and yet, the majority of organisations miss the most critical piece. The trap? Ignoring the “mood” of the organisation.

Mood isn’t emotion, it is more of a predisposition for action. Generative moods like confidence and trust pave the way for progress, while degenerative moods like cynicism and resentment guarantee failure. You can’t just paint over old, peeling walls with new paint and expect it to stick.

After mood, new leadership and management practices are necessary to transition from industrial-era supervision to coordination-era collaboration. Leaders have two responsibilities – the guardian of mood and the architect of the future; they must listen to the organisation, read the world and not be risk averse. Finally, systems and processes must align with desired behaviours. For example, a compensation system rewarding individual effort will sabotage any attempt to build high-performing teams. The system itself must align with desired behaviours.

What “mood” currently defines your team or organisation, and how is it impacting performance ?

The main insights you'll get from this episode are :

• Elements of consistent winning performance from athletes can be transferred to any field with human beings and bring about transformation.
• Bad leadership management tries to use industrial-era methods with modern-day coordination workers whereas completely different leadership is required.

Three levers of transformation:

• Mood: a predisposition for action, generative or degenerative for the future; most organisations have negative moods and if the mood is not right, nothing else matters.
• Leadership: a need to install new management practices, constitute teams, and design workflow.
• Systems: they must provide incentive for all, not reward individuals, and not ‘paint over old paint’.
• Caretaker CEOs vs. real leaders: new CEOs often promoted from within and remain in the manager mindset rather than assuming the role of leader.
• Leaders have two responsibilities – the guardian of mood and the architect of the future; they must listen to the organisation, read the world and not be risk averse.
• Sustaining competitive advantage depends on the CEO having a coach (cf. athletes) and being open to improvement.
• AI is creating disorder faster than we did and it cannot replace coaches; it must be used organisationally but not based on financial decisions (which affect mood).
• Awareness is a prerequisite to everything, and calm is a trainable skill – none of us can see our own limitations and we need to hear it from a trusted objective source.
• Taking new action starts transformation, being and doing differently experientially, finding your edge and continuing forward.
• The lone ranger/noble hero is an inhibiting leadership myth as nothing is created alone; great leaders build teams and develop people.
• To navigate transformation in an AI world, the CEO must listen to the junior people first – there is no innovation in the boardroom.

Find out more about Chris and his work here :

https://humanpotentialproject.com/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Transform-Passion-Purpose-Daily/dp/1623362717

https://chrismajer.com/

For more information on this episode please visit www.transformforvalue.com/podcast

To carry on developing your leadership and building a relevant & high performing team, connect with me here : https://calendly.com/transformforvalue/connect