With a lot of division and anger stirred up through the vaccine mandates, we talk to counsellor/therapist Maree Haworth about her experiences when she visited the protest and look at how we heal our families and community.

With Trevor Mallard the most prominent triggered New Zealander we talk to councellor/therapist Maree Haworth about how to know if we're in a triggered state and why we shouldn't be making important decisions when we are.