First up, Jon and Fintan talk about stuff, and things [0:00 - 12:52].

Then, DeepCI's Lewis Civin joins Jon and Fintan to talk about the company's work in the affiliate space. It's a bit mindblowing – I mean, how often do you hear about really new stuff? [12:53 - 59:00] Also, TIN CUP, and the vagaries of New Zealand cinema crop up.