We're back with another bonus episode! This time, with Joe and Leo's first interview where THEY ask the questions. Their guest, the interviewee, is Joseph Woodring, a retired prison warden and associate warden who oversaw murderers, high level drug dealers, maximum security facilities, worked for the department of justice, and the state department. He shares his experiences, and even discusses what it was like working closely with some of the world's most dangerous inmates, including ones who were in the Mafia.

Joseph Woodring's Website: https://www.josephwoodring.com/about

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