Sometimes we finish recording, set the mics down and THEN have the conversation of a lifetime. This audio-only episode is one of those "real talks" that we remembered to capture...

Life is only your experience of life; if you miss the experience, you miss your life. Today we discuss how our children will remember us, ways to cultivate our inner lives, and how to value our OWN experience as much as everyone else's. Layne has an experience that hugely impacts how she sees her own body. Jerry Seinfeld drops words of wisdom on a different podcast and we talk about it on this one. We explore what children can teach us about mindfulness and how to be present in the here and now. We learn a lesson about trusting ourselves from the time Jess' husband fell asleep in an important meeting and how to reframe the stories we are telling about our lives.

Then we give book recommendations! The best children's books, some of our favorite books and a few current reads.

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Books mentioned:

Here We Are by Oliver Jeffers

I Want My Hat Back by Jon Klassen

Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie

Enid Blyton

Everything Now by Rosecrans Baldwin

Women Who Run With the Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estes

The Way of Integrity by Martha Beck

Codependent No More by Melody Beattie

A Million Miles in A Thousand Years by Donald Miller

Abba's Child by Brennan Manning

The Jesuit's Guide to Almost Everything by Father James Martin