This morning we wanted to share a bit more from LZ Granderson's conversations with Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Rachel Levine, from the new podcast "Life Out Loud with LZ Granderson."

On this week's episode of "Life Out Loud," Granderson sits down with Fauci, who's best known today for his role in the response to COVID-19, but Fauci has been on the front lines of the fight against HIV/AIDS for decades. In their conversation, Fauci recalls how that fight led to his unusual friendship with activist Larry Kramer, who once described him as “a murderer and an incompetent idiot.” Plus, HHS Assistant Secretary for Health Dr. Rachel Levine, who made history as the first openly transgender person confirmed by the Senate, shares her advice for trans youth and their parents.

About "Life Out Loud with LZ Granderson": Award-winning journalist LZ Granderson draws from his own lived experience as a gay, Black father to host thought-provoking, poignant and engaging conversations with some of the most influential and inspirational people in the LGBTQ+ community. Find more episodes and follow the show on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/3fhwDHa), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/3fhwRy0), or your app of choice (http://abcn.ws/lifeoutloud).