Carl Lentz is the former lead pastor from Hillsong New York. Along with pastoring one of the most notable churches in the world he was also well-known for being the spiritual advisor to celebrities like Justin Bieber. However, in 2020, the leadership at Hillsong let Lentz go on the grounds of a very public and messy moral failing. Recently, Lentz and his wife have come forward in their podcast "Lights On" to discuss things. On this week's podcast, Troy, Andy, and Wes got together to talk about the Lentz conversation and discuss the topic of reconciliation in light of leadership failing and the overall message of the gospel.