Serene Jones is the president of Union Theological Seminary. She also doesn't believe in a 'literal' resurrection and finds the virgin birth 'bizarre.' But love is stronger than life and death or something like that. Read the article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/20/opinion/sunday/christian-easter-serene-jones.html

Dave defends church buildings and the guys discuss the relationship between architecture, theology, beauty, and worship. Mike tells a story about almost being beaten up by Brooks & Dunn while lunching with Kim Cattrall.

Conan and Kristen were both raised Catholic but give it little to no credit for their moral formation. Dave and Mike take on the idea of Christianity as primarily a "moral code" and where the directions for one's moral compass come from.

Brent continues his case for the Old Testament in light of neo-Marcionite rhetoric from the likes of Andy Stanley.

You can find Brent's book The Old Testament is Dying at Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Old-Testament-Dying-Recommended-Explorations/dp/0801048885/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=)