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  • Turn This Mutha Out

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    Remember when television dance shows weren't just entertainment but cultural institutions that shaped how we dressed, danced, and understood America? From American Bandstand's wholesome beginnings to Soul Train's revolutionary celebration of Black culture, these programs were windows into worlds many viewers couldn't access otherwise.

    This episode takes you on a nostalgic journey through the evolution of TV dance shows that defined generations. We unpack American Bandstand's complicated racial history, revealing how Dick Clark's claims about desegregation contrasted with the show's predominantly white audience until its move to Los Angeles in 1964. You'll discover how Don Cornelius created Soul Train as a direct response, crafting what one scholar called the perfect representation of "what blackness is" if aliens ever asked.

    We explore the surprising connections between these cultural touchstones – like how Solid Gold's professional dancers brought choreographed spectacle to living rooms across America, how Dancing on Air launched Kelly Ripa's career, and how Club MTV with Downtown Julie Brown created the perfect fusion of dance club culture and music television. Did you know Nine Inch Nails appeared on a dance show? Or that Walter Payton was once a Soul Train dancer?

    Beyond the music and moves, these shows were powerful social forces. They reflected America's racial divisions and integration efforts, showcased emerging musical genres (sometimes reluctantly), and created shared experiences for teenagers nationwide. We also reminisce about the now-extinct Under-21 clubs where many of us tried to replicate those dance floor moments we saw on TV.

    Whether you religiously watched these shows or are discovering their impact for the first time, this episode celebrates a time when dancing on television could unite a nation while highlighting our differences. So put on your dancing shoes and join us for this rhythmic trip down memory lane.


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    1 hr 20 min
  • Make America Collage Again

    Remember when the most exciting moment of your week was spotting the new issue of Tiger Beat on the newsstand? When you'd carefully pry open the staples to extract that Johnny Depp poster without damaging his perfect face? Nicole and Heather take us back to those glorious days when print magazines ruled our Gen X world.

    This episode reveals the surprising history behind the publications that shaped our youth. Did you know 17 Magazine essentially invented the concept of the "teenage girl consumer" back in 1944? Before then, teen girls weren't even recognized as a distinct market! We explore how magazines like Tiger Beat mastered the formula of sensationalist headlines, celebrity photos, and those precious poster pullouts that decorated our bedroom walls.

    The conversation meanders through personal favorites, from Time Magazine's Person of the Year selections throughout the 80s to the universal appeal of Reader's Digest. Remember those bite-sized articles and vocabulary quizzes? We reminisce about Mad Magazine's subversive humor, TV Guide's essential weekly listings, and the feminist revolution brought by Sassy in 1988. And who could forget Rolling Stone's evolution from music journalism to pop culture powerhouse?

    Most nostalgic of all might be our shared memories of creating collages from magazine cutouts – that uniquely Gen X form of self-expression involving scissors, glue, and hours of careful curation. As Heather puts it, "We were vision boarding before vision boarding was a thing!" We're officially launching our campaign to make magazines – and collages – great again.

    Want to join our magazine revival movement? Follow us on all socials @LikeWhateverPod, email us at [email protected], and please like, share, rate and review wherever you listen to podcasts!

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    1 hr 25 min
  • Get Your #2 Pencils Ready

    Step into the weird and wonderful world of Gen X nostalgia as Nicole and Heather take you on a journey that begins at the Philadelphia Oddities and Curiosities Expo and transforms into a heartfelt exploration of the school supplies that shaped our youth.

    The adventure kicks off with Heather in her element among taxidermy, preserved specimens, and macabre collectibles, while Nicole good-naturedly tags along. Between the mice dressed as ballerinas and a coveted $350 diaphanized octopus, Heather manages to score her perfect find: a tiny decapitated piglet in a jar for just $20. Their contrasting reactions to the expo perfectly illustrate the spectrum of Gen X sensibilities—some of us embraced the weird, others observed it from a comfortable distance.

    Their conversation naturally evolves into a deep dive into the back-to-school memories that defined our generation. Remember when a Trapper Keeper cost just $4.85? Or how Lisa Frank's psychedelic designs weren't just decorations but emotional armor for kids seeking self-expression? The hosts unpack the cultural significance behind these seemingly simple objects, revealing how they functioned as identity markers in a pre-digital world.

    From the iconic footwear that shaped our style (and possibly ruined our backs)—Vans, Tree Torns, and those plastic jellies—to the transformative power of Underoos that made us feel like superheroes beneath our everyday clothes, each item tells a story about belonging, status, and self-discovery. Perhaps most nostalgic of all is their exploration of the 1980s sticker craze, when adhesive paper became social currency and carefully curated sticker albums were treasured possessions.

    Whether you collected scratch-and-sniff stickers, drew on your canvas sneakers, or saved for weeks to buy the perfect Benetton bag, this episode will transport you back to a time when our identities were shaped by the things we carried to school. Join us for this celebration of Gen X childhood—and maybe share your own memories of your favorite school supplies on social media @likewhateverpod.

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    1 hr 22 min
  • I Do Not Like This Grown-Up Scam, I Do Not Like It Sam-I-Am

    On the 65th anniversary of "Green Eggs and Ham," we unpack the complicated legacy of Dr. Seuss with both nostalgia and critical awareness. Did you know this beloved classic was written on a $50 bet using only 50 unique words? Or that Dr. Seuss invented the term "nerd"? 

    Our conversation explores why six Dr. Seuss books were removed from publication in 2021, sparking passionate debate about how we should handle problematic content from our cultural past. Is erasing history the answer, or should we use these moments as teaching opportunities? We don't hold back on our opinions about whitewashing history versus acknowledging mistakes and growth.

    The episode takes unexpected turns through childhood memories, cultural reflection, and surprising revelations about Dr. Seuss's political messaging - like Yertle the Turtle being an allegory for Hitler! We also examine what made his work so enduring, from his creative wordplay to his distinct artistic style.

    For Gen X listeners who grew up with these books, this episode offers a thought-provoking blend of nostalgia and modern perspective. For younger listeners, it's a window into understanding how cultural standards evolve while appreciating the creativity that made Dr. Seuss a household name for generations.

    Whether you're Team "Ban the Books" or Team "Teach the Context," this conversation will make you think differently about childhood classics and how we navigate problematic elements of our shared cultural heritage.

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    1 hr 24 min
  • What's Cookin Good Lookin

    From Julia Child's kitchen to Gordon Ramsay's Hell's Kitchen, cooking shows have transformed dramatically over the decades. What started as humble instructional programming has evolved into a multi-billion dollar entertainment empire that has fundamentally changed how we think about, talk about, and consume food.

    In this episode, we trace the fascinating evolution of food television from its educational public broadcasting roots in the 1960s through its commercial explosion in the 1990s. We explore how pioneering shows like "The French Chef" and "Yan Can Cook" demystified global cuisines for American audiences, before cable television and the launch of Food Network in 1993 revolutionized the format, turning chefs into celebrities and cooking into competitive sport.

    The conversation takes unexpected turns as we share our personal connections to restaurant life and cooking. You'll hear why one of us passionately hates the term "foodie," what it's really like working in a professional kitchen (hint: it's nothing like TV makes it seem), and why that first cigarette after a kitchen shift feels so damn good. Plus, we reveal Julia Child's surprising connection to shark repellent during WWII and how it launched her cooking career.

    Whether you're a cooking show devotee or just someone who appreciates good food, this episode offers a delicious deep dive into how television transformed our relationship with cooking - creating a world where we paradoxically watch more cooking shows while actually cooking less at home. Join us for this entertaining exploration of how food television went from teaching Americans how to make a proper French omelet to turning food into the ultimate form of entertainment.

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    1 hr 13 min
  • The Running Kindergarten Governator

    From Arnold Schwarzenegger's remarkable journey to the loss of beloved Gen X icons, this episode takes you through a nostalgic rollercoaster ride that perfectly captures our generation's unique perspective.

    Arnold's story is nothing short of extraordinary. Born in Austria to an alcoholic father who favored his brother, young Arnold turned to bodybuilding as an escape. When his parents discovered his walls covered with male bodybuilder posters rather than typical teenage heartthrobs, they assumed he was gay and subjected him to beatings. This early adversity only fueled his determination to reinvent himself in America, where he would transform from champion bodybuilder to Hollywood superstar to California governor.

    We can't help but laugh at pre-fame Arnold's appearance on "The Dating Game," where his language barrier led to adorably awkward moments like asking "What does hanky panky mean?" long before he became the action hero we know today. His personal life proved equally dramatic, from his Kennedy family marriage to Maria Shriver to the revelation that he fathered a child with household staff.

    The show takes a poignant turn as we reflect on recently departed Gen X icons Ozzy Osbourne and Hulk Hogan. This sparks a deeper conversation about wrestling nostalgia (Macho Man! Andre the Giant! Rowdy Roddy Piper!) and the difficult balance of separating beloved characters from problematic performers. Can we cherish childhood memories of Hulkamania while acknowledging Terry Bollea's troubling statements?

    Between dissecting the viral Coldplay "cheaters" scandal and South Park's latest political satire, we showcase the quintessential Gen X ability to find humor in cultural moments while maintaining our skeptical edge. Our generation has always existed in this sweet spot – sentimental about our youth while keeping a critical eye on both past and present.

    What other podcast brings you everything from Arnold's bodybuilding empire to firenados to wild conspiracy theories? Share your own Gen X memories with us on social media or email [email protected].

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    1 hr 9 min
  • Hearts of Glass, Malls and Memories, A Chat with Pat Green

    What happens when three mall misfits find each other amid the neon glow and synthesizer soundtracks of 1988? That's the question at the heart of our conversation with author Pat Green, whose novel "Hearts of Glass: Living in the Real World" captures both the nostalgia and the complicated reality of growing up Gen X.

    Pat reveals how the book originated from a series of blog posts about influential women in Gen X culture, evolving into a story of found family and survival. Through his characters—Ford, a traumatized former child model; Cassie, a punk-rock fan escaping an abusive relationship; and Jenny, a profoundly deaf aspiring model navigating a world without ADA accommodations—Pat explores how the mall became a sanctuary for teens escaping troubled home lives.

    Our discussion goes beyond surface-level 80s references to examine the deeper meaning behind Gen X nostalgia. As Pat eloquently puts it, "We discovered art, beauty, and friendship while we were in the middle of hell." We explore how today's wave of nostalgia serves as both comfort and coping mechanism in uncertain times, especially as we face the mortality of our cultural icons.

    Pat shares fascinating behind-the-scenes insights into his research process, including his consultations with the Deaf community to ensure authentic representation of Jenny's character. He also takes us back to his own mall experiences, including a hilariously candid account of working at Glamour Shots in the early 90s.

    The conversation weaves through themes of consent, challenging toxic masculinity, and finding strength in sensitivity—all embodied by Ford, who Pat describes as "what happens if a little boy grew up and actually listened to Mr. Rogers." Whether you're a Gen Xer seeking recognition of your lived experience or simply fascinated by the cultural touchstones that shaped a generation, this episode offers both laughs and profound reflections on how we survive through connection.

    Grab your copy of "Hearts of Glass" wherever books are sold, with the audiobook releasing July 25th. Visit patgreenauthor.com to learn more and connect with the author who's bringing Gen X stories to life.

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    1 hr 32 min
  • We'll Be Right Back, After These Messages

    Remember the eerie Parkey butter dish whispering "butter" to lonely homemakers? The Kool-Aid Man violently crashing through walls? Or that problematic Calgon "Ancient Chinese Secret" commercial that has lived rent-free in our brains for decades? These aren't just random memories—they're powerful marketing campaigns that embedded themselves permanently in the collective Gen X consciousness.

    In this nostalgia-packed episode, we explore the surprising staying power of commercial jingles and TV ads from our youth. From McDonald's impossibly catchy menu songs to the Life cereal kid who supposedly died mixing Pop Rocks and Coke (spoiler: he didn't!), these marketing moments didn't just sell products—they became part of our cultural DNA.

    We dive deep into food mascots that bizarrely came to life, cereal preferences that still influence our shopping habits, and fast-food restaurants that have changed as dramatically as we have since childhood. The conversation takes unexpected turns through our personal relationships with American cheese slices, the complex hierarchy of restaurant staff during the Door Dash era, and why McDonald's slidey-things need to make a comeback immediately.

    What makes these decades-old jingles stick when we can't remember where we put our keys five minutes ago? Why did we desperately want Mrs. Butterworth to talk to us? And how did the Oscar Mayer song permanently teach an entire generation to spell "bologna"? Join us for this hilarious trip down memory lane that proves advertising works in mysterious and permanent ways.

    Have a favorite commercial jingle still stuck in your head? Share it with us on social media @LikeWhateverPod or email us at [email protected]!

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    1 hr 14 min
  • We're Gonna Need A Bigger Podcast

    Two lifelong movie fans peel back the layers of cinematic history to reveal the chaotic, problem-plagued production that unexpectedly created one of the most influential films of all time. What began as a seemingly straightforward adaptation of Peter Benchley's novel about a man-eating shark became a masterclass in filmmaking innovation when everything that could go wrong, did go wrong.

    The mechanical shark—famously nicknamed "Bruce" after Spielberg's lawyer—refused to cooperate, sinking, malfunctioning, and looking decidedly unrealistic when it did appear. But this seemingly catastrophic failure forced the young director to reimagine his approach, relying instead on suggestion, sound, and the viewer's imagination to create terror. The yellow barrels breaking the surface, those two ominous musical notes composed by John Williams, and the expert editing by Verna Fields transformed what could have been just another monster movie into a suspense thriller worthy of Hitchcock himself.

    As we dissect the troubled 159-day shoot (over triple the scheduled time), the ballooning budget that nearly derailed Spielberg's career, and Robert Shaw's unforgettable USS Indianapolis monologue (which he rewrote himself after attempting to film it drunk), we discover how the confluence of accidents, limitations, and inspired artistic choices created cinematic magic.

    The hosts share fascinating behind-the-scenes stories, including how Roy Scheider improvised the iconic "You're gonna need a bigger boat" line, why Spielberg now refuses to be present for the final scene filming of all his movies, and the strange moment when the production team actually considered training a real great white shark before realizing the impossibility.

    Did you know that Spielberg originally scoffed at John Williams' simple two-note theme? Or that the film's troubled production was nicknamed "Flaws" by its frustrated crew? Dive into the deep water with us as we explore how a film that went dramatically over budget and schedule changed Hollywood forever by creating the summer blockbuster and keeping generations of viewers afraid to go in the water.

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    1 hr 11 min
  • Now That's What I Call Heartache

    Heartbreak never sounded so good. Join us as we journey through the defining breakup anthems of the 80s and 90s that still make us feel all the feelings decades later.

    We're unpacking the surprising truth behind The Police's "Every Breath You Take" (hint: it's definitely not a love song), the cinematic power of OMD's "If You Leave" from Pretty in Pink, and the vocal masterpiece that is Whitney Houston's cover of "I Will Always Love You." Each track comes with stories – both from music history and our own personal connections that might just trigger your own musical memories.

    Did you know Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" was actually a cover of a 1964 song that never found success until the 80s synth treatment? Or that Simple Minds initially refused to record "Don't You Forget About Me" before it became their signature hit? We're diving into these fascinating origin stories while sharing middle school dance traumas, personal attachments, and the bittersweet nostalgia these songs evoke.

    From Annie Lennox's "Walking on Broken Glass" to Britney Spears' "Baby One More Time," we're examining how these songs captured the raw emotion of heartbreak across two decades. Whether you experienced these songs when they first released or discovered them years later, their emotional power remains undimmed by time.

    Share your own breakup song memories with us! Find us on all socials @likewhateverpod or email us at [email protected]. And if you're enjoying our Gen X perspective on music, movies, and more, please like, share, rate and review the podcast wherever you listen.

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    1 hr 2 min

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Join Heather and Nicole as we discuss all things Gen-X with personal nostalgia, current events, and an advocacy for the rights of all humans.  From music to movies to television and so much…