The ladies are back and catching up after the weekend!  

Katie spent some quality time with her college bestie and her adorable kiddos, while Meko finally made her way to a local museum (and of course has thoughts).  

Between stories and laughs, they dive into how to dodge holiday burnout before it hits, how to prep for Thanksgiving without losing your mind, and what makes those ride-or-die friendships last through every season of life.  

And don’t skip the Biased Opinion segment this week, it’s one for the books. 

So grab your wine, hit play, and cheers to the madness of the holidays and the friends who keep us sane. 

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This week on Listen, Here’s the Thing, Katie and Meko are back with another round of laughs, life updates, and the kind of conversations that feel like catching up with your best friends over coffee… or wine.

From cozy weekends and quiet houses to pop culture and binge-worthy shows, they’re diving into how life - and the seasons - keep changing once the kids are grown and the to-do list doesn’t slow down.

They chat everything from viral internet trends to TV obsessions, share what they’re reading, and tackle the real-life stuff too – old and new family traditions, time changes, midlife routines, and why we’re all just trying to find balance between gratitude and exhaustion.

And of course, they wrap it all up with what they’re currently loving - the products, moments, and little things making midlife a little more manageable (and a lot more fun).

Because around here, it’s not about having it all together - it’s about talking about it together.

After Meko’s epic hiking adventure out West, we’re back with another episode that proves wellness isn’t always what it seems. From Kourtney Kardashian’s vagina lollipops to Goop’s infamous jade eggs and vaginal steaming, we’re diving into the wild world of celebrity “health hacks” and calling out the nonsense along the way. 

Then we get personal with our nightly routines (and some of our friends’), plus another juicy round of Our Biased Opinions you won’t want to miss.  

So, pour yourself a glass, we’ll tell you what we’re sipping, and stick around for what we’re loving this week. 

Because let’s be honest… if you can’t laugh about celebrity wellness fads while exfoliating and drinking wine, what are we even doing here? 

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This week on Listen, Here’s the Thing, Katie and Meko are coming in hot and a little unfiltered. 

From Katie’s trip through the U.P. (yes, including the weed shops) to Meko’s Ann Arbor trip and Uncork for a Cure, it’s another Weekend Catch-Up you don’t want to miss. The gals dive into everything from the 13-year-old Egyptian true-crime shocker to what’s new in pop culture, like DWTS’s big “no elimination” flop, a Love Is Blind update, and which book-to-movie adaptations are driving readers wild. 

Then it gets real, who can we actually trust in the world of wellness influencers? Katie and Meko break down the rise and fall of scammy “gurus” like Belle Gibson and Brittany Dawn, exposing the toxic side of wellness culture, “digital quackery,” and why women over 40 are the industry’s favorite targets. 

And just when you think you’ve heard it all, the UnBiased Opinion of the Week drops: a woman in Scotland who faked an entire pregnancy and baby. Yes, you read that right. 

Finally, the ladies wrap up with their weekly favorites: 

Katie’s loving the Skinbetter Trio Lux 

Meko’s binging documentaries on scammers (shocker) 

Pour your coffee, your wine, or whatever keeps you sane, and settle in for another round of real talk, wild stories, and female friendship over 40. 

Get ready for one of our most powerful episodes yet! This week, Katie and Meko sit down with Naseem Rochette, author of The Unexpected Benefits of Being Run Over, to dive into her journey from tragedy to triumph. We explore how Naseem took a life-shattering event and turned it into her “Unbreakable” story of resilience, transformation, and purpose. 

You’ll hear about how her life has changed professionally, spiritually, and personally, since the accident. We dig into her writing process, her leadership evolution, and what it truly means to rise from the cracks instead of being defined by them. 

Of course, because this is Listen, Here’s the Thing, we wrap up in our signature style, spilling about reality TV juiciness, sharing real moments and hard lessons, and keeping it 100 with the gals 40+. Tune in for inspiration, tears, laughs, and always a splash of red wine  honesty. 

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This week on Listen, Here’s the Thing, Katie and Meko are back and catching up on all things midlife happenings, pop culture, and true crime obsession - with a side of canning apples and influencer swag bags.  

Weekend Catch-Up: 

Meko hit UofM Homecoming while Katie went full Little House on the Prairie - making applesauce, baking, and channeling her cozy-core era. They recap Love Is Blind Season 9, Dancing with the Stars (bye, Lauren from Fifth Harmony), and Katie’s latest Freida McFadden thriller, The Boyfriend. 

Oh My Gawd... We’re Influencers?! 

The ladies attended their first influencer event and are here to talk about their newfound love for the Michigan Farmer. It was like going on the best school field trip, but you get to come home with a great swag bag. 

True Crime Obsession : 

Why are women over 40 obsessed with true crime? Is crime really increasing, or just amplified by the internet? Katie and Meko dive into the wildest cases they can’t stop Googling - from Sonam Kshatriya to Ellen Greenberg - and what fuels our fascination. 

Reddit Hot Take: 

“My neighbor kept checking on me... so I gave his wife a reason to check on him.” 

Would you do the same? The internet’s favorite revenge story has us asking - when is petty justice actually just perfect? 

What We’re Loving: 

Meko’s new lip gloss obsession and Katie’s Dashing Diva Semi-Cure Gel Nail Kit - because true crime is better with a good mani.  

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Katie and Meko are back with all the laughs, hot takes, and midlife real talk you love. This week, the ladies dish on their quick New York getaway, what was planned vs. what actually happened, and the latest celebrity news, from Taylor Swift not being the Super Bowl Halftime Show, to Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman’s rumored split. Plus, their take on the Ryder Cup drama, Dancing with the Stars eliminations, and why Cory Feldman really didn’t stand a chance. 

Then it’s time for Reddit confessions, would you pick up your ex’s kid from school? The ladies weigh in, but they want to hear what you would do. 

The conversation turns deep with an Empty Nesting update: how life changes when the kids are out of the house, the pressure to start a “new chapter,” hobby fails, and handling that extra-quiet home when husbands travel. Real, raw, and totally relatable for every woman navigating this season of life. 

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✨ Meko’s take on the new iPhone update (love it… and hate it). 

✨ Katie’s obsession with the L’ANGE Hair Le Volume 65MM 2-in-1 styler. 

Pull up a glass of wine, settle in, and laugh along, it’s the perfect mix of pop culture, midlife motherhood, and women’s wellness over 40. 

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Katie and Meko are back with a weekend catch-up you don’t want to miss! Katie hit Ferris State for Homecoming while Meko kept busy with dinner dates and the Northwood Auto Show . From there, the ladies dive into everything they’ve been watching, bingeing Black Rabbit, getting hooked on The Girlfriend (this month’s book club pick), and revisiting the vibes of the Lilith Fair documentary. 

Of course, no episode is complete without fashion talk. What’s trending for women over 40 and why it matters. Then the spotlight shifts to the new Dancing With the Stars cast: predictions, hot takes, and who Katie already thinks is on the chopping block.  

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This week Katie and Meko are back from their Up North Michigan adventures and sharing all the stories you didn’t know you needed. From surprise small-town fun to unexpected hiccups, nothing’s off-limits. 

Then, the ladies realize they completely missed the fact that the Emmy Awards even happened, but don’t worry, they’ve got plenty to say about the fashion that did make it to the red carpet. 

The conversation gets deeper as they reflect on parenting daughters transitioning into adulthood, navigating independence, boundaries, and what it really means to parent grown kids. 

And of course, it wouldn’t be Listen, Here’s the Thing without wrapping up with a new Favorite Thing: their latest obsession, Wine Spies , where hidden gems meet their glasses. 

Fun. Relatable. A little wine-fueled.  

Katie and Meko are back with a weekend recap and a few laughs before diving into the shows that have us glued to the couch. First up, more juicy details and wild opinions on Netflix’s , Unknown Number: High School Catfish. Then it’s time for some real talk as the ladies break down Hulu’s chilling documentary "Stalking Samantha", a story that sparks conversations every woman needs to hear about safety, awareness, and trusting your instincts.  

And of course, no episode is complete without a little wine talk, tune in to hear the scoop on what’s in our glasses this week and how we are living in our Empty Nest Era!