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Title: Guantanamo Bay

Subtitle: Crime, War & Conflict

Author: iMinds

Narrator: Luca James Lee

Format: Unabridged

Length: 8 mins

Language: English

Release date: 09-15-09

Publisher: iMinds

Ratings: 4 of 5 out of 1 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

Learn about Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp with iMinds insightful audio knowledge series.The Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp was set up by the United States Government as a detention facility for unlawful enemy combatants captured in the war on terror. Opened in 2002, it is located on the US Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

Following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US, the Congress granted President Bush the authority to use all necessary and appropriate force against those who committed the attacks. Two months later President Bush issued an executive order, which provided that any non-citizens believed to be involved in international terrorism could be held by the US military indefinitely. Under the terms of this order, these unlawful enemy combatants would be tried by a military tribunal and that they would have no right of appeal to any courts: US, international, or otherwise.

Perfect to listen to while commuting, exercising, shopping or cleaning the house.. iMinds brings knowledge to your MP3 with 8 minute information segments to whet your mental appetite and broaden your mind.

iMinds offers 12 main categories; become a Generalist by increasing your knowledge of Business, Politics, People, History, Pop Culture, Mystery, Crime, Culture, Religion, Concepts, Science and Sport. Clean and concise, crisp and engaging, discover what you never knew you were missing.

iMinds is the knowledge solution for the information age cutting through the white noise to give you quick, accurate knowledge .. Perfect your dinner party conversation, impress your boss - an excellent way to discover topics of interest for the future.

Editorial Reviews:

An excellent introduction for those seeking to understand the controversial Guantanamo Bay detention center. In smooth, even tones, and with a relatively even-handed approach, performer Luca James Lee presents the legal and political background behind the center - from the reasons for its creation outside U.S. jurisdiction, to the reasons it stays open despite Obama's 2009 executive order to close the camp. Lee also describes the use of military commissions, and details the cases of the very few prisoners who have actually been convicted of a crime. This is a great crash course for those seeking some basic familiarity with this disturbing, yet important, topic.

Critic Reviews:

"I'm learning all sorts of stuff about stuff I didn't even know I didn't know. And it sticks. In a nutshell: wonderful." (Jonathon Margolis, Financial Times)

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Title: The American Future

Subtitle: A History

Author: Simon Schama

Narrator: Rupert Degas

Format: Unabridged

Length: 15 hrs and 58 mins

Language: English

Release date: 05-19-09

Publisher: HarperAudio

Ratings: 4 of 5 out of 52 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

It's not business as usual. Cultural hostilities more irreconcilable than any since the Civil War have divided America in two. In November 2008, the American people elected a new president, feeling more anxious about the future of the nation than at any time since Watergate. Our omnipotent military, the cornucopia of material comforts available, the security of our borders, and the global economy can no longer be taken for granted.

In The American Future, historian Simon Schama takes a long look at the multiple crises besetting the United States and asks how these problems look in the mirror of time. In four crucial debates - on wars, religion, race and immigration, and the relationship between natural resources and prosperity - Schama looks back to see more clearly into the future.

Full of lost insights, The American Future showcases Schama's acclaimed gift for storytelling, ensuring these voices will be heard again.

Editorial Reviews:

Renowned historian Simon Schama uses the election of 2008 as a springboard to discuss America's future as shaped by stories of its past. He examines the ideals and the problems of the country's formative years up through 2008 and how the nation became ideologically divided to the point where that year represented a dramatic crossroads and history was made. Accomplished British voice actor Rupert Degas brings the history to life, his clear diction and powerful voice invoking the magnitude of the election of Barack Obama. For an interesting perspective that puts some of the elements of the American story into a narrative that includes the good and the bad but looks forward with hope toward the future.

Critic Reviews:

"A lively meditation on American history... Schama's wide-ranging narratives wander between contemporary reportage...and fluent, richly literate history." (Publishers Weekly)

Members Reviews:

Simon Schama is always entertaining

Simon Schama has a knack for writing beautifully and finding interesting and often obscure stories to highlight his historical theses. The fact that some of his books, including this one, are companions to BBC or PBS shows, helps his texts move along at a fast clip (a good feature for an audiobook), makes sure that the material contains good word-pictures to light up your mind, and makes sure the words, sentences, paragraphs and chapters are well edited. The downside of all this is that sometimes the topics are left somewhat under-developed, somewhat superficial. But as long as you know that is the style, going in, you can suspend your critical eye and just go along for a very entertaining ride. I highly recommend the book. I have only dinged it one star for occasionally irritating superficiality, and for the narrator's occasional lapses into fake accents to speak out quotes from the characters. Minor blemishes in a good audiobook.

Compelling

You know those questions that go "if you could have dinner with anyone, who would it be?". Well...I think I'd choose Simon Schama. Or maybe a roadtrip. Schama is one of those historians who both have something to say about how we live now and the depth of knowledge to ground his thinking by weaving stories from our past. One part sociology, one part history, all very smart and engaging.

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Title: The Great Crash of 1929

Author: John Kenneth Galbraith

Narrator: Nelson Runger

Format: Unabridged

Length: 6 hrs and 39 mins

Language: English

Release date: 03-25-09

Publisher: Recorded Books

Ratings: 4 of 5 out of 153 votes

Genres: History, American

Publisher's Summary:

With grace and wit, America's foremost economist examines the boom-and-bust that led to the stock market crash of 1929. Economic writings are rarely notable for their entertainment value, but this widely admired best-seller is the exception. Galbraith's light touch makes his expert analysis of America's greatest financial disaster a surprisingly engaging listen for anyone.

©1954 John Kenneth Galbraith; (P)1992 Recorded Books, LLC

Critic Reviews:

"Veteran narrator Nelson Runger captures the author's subtle humor and sarcasm well ... His energy and pacing carry the listener along in this detailed work." - Booklist

Members Reviews:

Witty and Entertaining

I love Nelson Runger's voice and I own as many of his narrations as I can find. Now, for the book. I enjoyed this from the first time I heard it many years ago. I still enjoy it, especially when we go through yet another financial crisis. Greed will keep us from learning the lessons of history. A not-verbatim saying from the book: "American Socialism is when the corporate jets land at Dulles." Sound familiar? We are doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. It should be no surprise when what goes up will come down with a crash. Wall St. danced, now the rest of the world pays. Ooh, how many more cliches can I work in here? In a nutshell, this is history. Hindsight is always more accurate than foresight. You don't have to agree with the author's opinions, political or economic. Economics has always be an opinion science, not an exact science. Also, I recommend "Only Yesterday" by Frederick Lewis Allen and read by Grover Gardner. His book is an entertaining review of American cultural history from 1919-1929. Galbraith quotes Lewis faithfully.

The HIstory of the Future

I laughed, I cried, I gnashed my teeth. The best book on our current financial crisis was written in the 1960s. Galbraith is a Keynesian, but more pertinently an "institutional" economist in the great American tradition of Veblen. As such, his work is abhorred by market fundamentalists, and, alas, largely dismissed on technical grounds by modern day liberals like Krugman. Yet his reading of the Crash and Great Depression stands up today as few economics texts could. To paraphrase: Higher worker productivity and flat wages mean huge gains for the capitalist class. This produces overinvestment and overproduction unmatched by rising general consumption (so much for Say's Law), along with huge accumulations of global capital and a consequent orgy of speculation. The rich simply have too much money to deal with it rationally. Soon the rich and everybody else are riding fantastic stock bubbles that serve to disguise the wage disparity. Sound familiar? But it is the telling that is really worth the price. A wise and sardonic observer of human frailty, Galbraith is a pleasure to read, as when he describes one head of the stock market as "such a spectacularly unsuccessful businessman that his outright thefts were almost incidental." It is likewise hilarious to hear again and again in 1929 the refrain that "the fundamentals are sound," taking the words right out of Bush's mouth. More than ever this is an illuminating book. And essential reading now that the hardcore Reaganites are trying furiously to rewrite the history of the Depression, as well as the history of the last 20 years.

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Title: Big Boy Rules

Subtitle: America's Mercenaries Fighting in Iraq

Author: Steve Fainaru

Narrator: Patrick Lawlor

Format: Unabridged

Length: 8 hrs and 42 mins

Language: English

Release date: 12-01-08

Publisher: Tantor Audio

Ratings: 3.5 of 5 out of 74 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

Washington Post reporter Steve Fainaru traveled with several groups of security contractors to find out what motivates them to put their lives in danger every day. What emerges is a searing, revealing, and sometimes darkly funny look at the men who live and work in the battlefields of Iraq: some are desperate, some are confused, and some are just out for a lark. Some disappear into the void that is Iraq and are never seen again. It's not a pretty picture that Fainaru reveals, but it is brutally real and shockingly honest.

Big Boy Rules is an unforgettable leap into the mayhem of Iraq and into the dark recesses of the minds of American policymakers and the warriors they hire.

Critic Reviews:

"An informative, dramatic look at a significant, often unexamined, aspect of contemporary military culture." (Kirkus)

Members Reviews:

A must read....

If this book had been pitched more as a look at the events surrounding the kidnapping and murder of five Private Security Contractors in Iraq and the company they worked for it would have been received better by readers here. It was not at all what I was expecting. However, I am very glad I read it. It was well written, and an easy read. Everyone it is very relatable, and by the end you feel that you really knew these men and their families…and grieve for them. It makes no excuses, though it does toss out a few more accusations than I liked. Of all the books on the subject matter, I have found it the most relatable thus far.

Read it in two days

This is a superior book. Mostly books on the war in Iraq or Afghanistan are hit or miss, often they are watered down with political angles or outright redactions. This book reads like a story. Its scope ranges from vivid life in America to the saunas of urban warfare in Iraq. You will feel this one because it is well written and sincerely conveyed. I instinctively wondered if the book won any awards, and my research revealed that the author won a Pullizter. You'll know it's worthy too. You will be reading a 'real' book packed with real information and real people. You'll know something important about something you KNOW lies just between the lines on war coverage in Iraq. The political slant is NOT here, and we are given a stark look at the places, the people and their decisions behind the private business of warfare. I highly recommend this book.

More a journalists notebook than a tactical book.

This is a good book in general, but the author too often crosses the line into his personal commentary. He seems to be no fan of the war, but I enjoyed it completely even though I am a strong proponent of both the Iraq war and the (albeit imperfect) use of private contractors. I would have enjoyed a book with more tactical details and war stories. This is more a notebook.

Great read.

I thoroughly enjoyed the combination of engaging writing and narration. The subject matter isn't for everybody, but the author conjured up an interesting exploration of different personalities and their lives and motivations, and wove it together with an engrossing look a very much neglected aspect of the current U.S. war in Iraq.

I especially liked Patrick Lawler's performance, which made me feel as if I were actually experiencing the events being described.

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Title: The End of Iraq

Subtitle: How American Incompetence Created a War Without End

Author: Peter W. Galbraith

Narrator: Alan Sklar

Format: Unabridged

Length: 9 hrs and 35 mins

Language: English

Release date: 10-09-08

Publisher: Tantor Audio

Ratings: 4 of 5 out of 21 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

George W. Bush broke up Iraq when he ordered its invasion in 2003. The United States not only removed Saddam Hussein, it also smashed and later dissolved the institutions by which Iraq's Sunni Arab minority ruled the country: its army, its security services, and the Baath Party. With these institutions gone and irreplaceable, the basis of an Iraqi state has disappeared.

The End of Iraq describes the administration's strategic miscalculations behind the war as well as the blunders of the American occupation. There was the failure to understand the intensity of the ethnic and religious divisions in Iraq. This was followed by incoherent and inconsistent strategies for governing, the failure to spend money for reconstruction, the misguided effort to create a national army and police, and then the turning over of the country's management to Republican political loyalists rather than qualified professionals. As a matter of morality, Peter W. Galbraith writes, the Kurds of Iraq are no less entitled to independence than are Lithuanians, Croatians, or Palestinians. And if the country's majority Shiites want to run their own affairs, or even have their own state, on what democratic principle should they be denied?

Editorial Reviews:

The End of Iraq: How American Incompetence Created a War Without End is a thorough account of America's war on Iraq and the consequences of this military involvement. Alan Sklar's performance accentuates the gravity of the subject. Sklar's sober tone and the steadiness of his voice make it easy for the audience to trust the content presented herein. In The End of Iraq Galbraith examines the factions within Iraq's population and explains how these divisions impede America's exit from the region. This is a well-researched and engaging audio, full of essential information for Americans interested in foreign policy.

Members Reviews:

Very interesting contemporary Historial analysis

I enjoyed this volume tremendously. The author made a very convincing case and detailed outline of how and why the Republican plans for Iraq never succeeded from the outset. The book however, degenerated from contemporary history to a polemnical memoir, which is a pitfall for all contemporary histories, the event has yet to condense. I enjoyed this book nonetheless, the author is very knowledgeable about the political, historical and ethnic dynamic in Iraq.

Reap what you sow, chaos begets chaos

Currently sitting in Baghdad, Iraq with my platoon of Soldiers, I began wondering the deeper, non-personal reasons why I was in my current situation. The title to this book is no lie, as seen by the endless stream of nauseating facts laid out by Peter Galbraith. Every sentence leaves you wishing the book would end sooner, not because of lack of literary talent, but simply due to the almost criminal decisions being made by our leadership. Although not much for a plot, be prepared to be pummeled with well-organized facts describing how each decision led to an outcome, reshaped the battlefield, and was followed by another disastrous decision. Stepping away from the always biased media, Peter Galbraith gives the first complete, organized, intelligent, behind the political scenes view of where this country is, how it got there, and where it is heading.

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Title: The Thirteen American Arguments

Subtitle: Enduring Debates That Inspire and Define Our Nation

Author: Howard Fineman

Narrator: Scott Sowers

Format: Unabridged

Length: 10 hrs and 8 mins

Language: English

Release date: 09-02-08

Publisher: Random House Audio

Ratings: 3.5 of 5 out of 38 votes

Genres: History, American

Publisher's Summary:

In an enlightening book that cuts through the din and makes sense of the headlines, Fineman captures the essential issues that have always compelled healthy and heated debate - and must continue to do so in order for us to prosper in the 21st century. The Thirteen American Arguments run the gamut, from issues of individual identity to our country's role in the world, including:

Members Reviews:

Argumentatively biased

The introduction was wonderful and I felt that the book would discuss the need for continued discussion and "argument" of the key topics of America. However, with the first chapter I found that I knew exactly which side of the arguments the author was on and that he was interested in converting readers to his side, and not to promote the idea that our country should continue to argue these points. I was hoping for a less-biased push for more communication and discussion by all of America, what I feel that I got was an argument for the author's beliefs. It is too bad because if one is looking for arguments for both sides and why we should continue to arguments, then this is not the book. I find that it is good to hear arguments from the "other side" even if I do not agree. It helps me develop my arguments, understand others arguments and opens my mind to new ideas and points of view. This book did none of that, nor did it make me feel that "argumentation" is good.

Lost Potential

What a great concept, but the author ruins the idea by his blatant bias and misstatements of history. His inaccuracy about the War Powers Act and the story of Richard Nixon leaving office are but two (of many) examples. His continual railing against the Bush administration and sympathetic treatment of limousine liberals ruin any enjoyment of what could be a good argument. Not worth your time.

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Title: The Challenge

Subtitle: Hamdan v. Rumsfeld and the Fight over Presidential Power

Author: Jonathan Mahler

Narrator: William Hughes

Format: Unabridged

Length: 11 hrs and 2 mins

Language: English

Release date: 08-05-08

Publisher: Blackstone Audio, Inc.

Ratings: 4 of 5 out of 24 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

But with the help of a young constitutional law professor, Neal Katyal, Swift sued the Bush administration over the legality of the tribunals - and won. Written with the cooperation of Swift and Katyal, here is the inside story of this seminal case, perhaps the most important decision on presidential power and the rule of law in the history of the Supreme Court.

Critic Reviews:

"This is the definitive work on an epic Supreme Court case - and on the human beings behind the headlines." (Jeffrey Toobin, author of The Nine: Inside the Secret World of the Supreme Court)

Members Reviews:

Clear and Compelling

A crisp, clear, and compelling rendition of a leading human- and civil-case of the Bush years. Mahler draws wonderful characterizations of his dramatis personae and leads the reader smoothly through the thicket of legal issues. Highly recommended

An engrossing read

An extremely well told tale, I was engrossed throughout - which is saying something when you consider that it is basically just a tale of consecutive lawsuits, weaved in and out of the lives of the principal characters.

The legal issues involved were well explained, even to a layman, and I never felt overwhelmed or bored by the legal details.

In order to enjoy this book, you definitely have to believe in individual rights over executive power, and to believe that it is this freedom that makes America strong, and that will ultimately prevail over the forces of darkness.

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Title: Moyers on Democracy

Author: Bill Moyers

Narrator: Bill Moyers

Format: Abridged

Length: 5 hrs and 22 mins

Language: English

Release date: 07-08-08

Publisher: Random House Audio

Ratings: 4.5 of 5 out of 30 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

Among the reasons for that, writes noted journalist Bill McKibben, "is that Moyers pulls no punches. His understanding of America's history is at least as deep as his understanding of Christian tradition, which is an integral part of his background...With his feet firmly planted in the deepest American traditions, Bill Moyers is helping to keep alive an oratorical tradition that is fading after two centuries. Trained by his career in broadcasting, he writes for the ear, his cadences and his repetitions timed to bring an audience to full realization of its role and its power.

"And that is the message of this book," McKibben continues. "Moyers on Democracy collects many of Bill Moyers' most moving statements to connect the dots on what is happening to our country - the twinned growth of private wealth and public squalor, the assault on our Constitution, the undermining of the electoral process, the accelerating class war against ordinary (and vulnerable) Americans inherent in the growth of economic inequality, the dangers of an imperial executive, the attack on the independence of the press, the despoiling of the earth we share as our common gift - and to rekindle the listener's conviction that 'the gravediggers of democracy will not have the last word'."

Richly insightful, and alive with a fierce, abiding love for our country, Moyers on Democracy is essential listening.

Critic Reviews:

"Bill Moyers has been my North Star, in his eloquence, his quiet passion and courage, and in the way he presents me and millions of others with the ideals of our nation, from our past to our present to our uncertain future. Always, he offers the gifts of thoughtfulness and of hope." (Studs Terkel)

Members Reviews:

Fascinating

Where does Moyers on Democracy rank among all the audiobooks youve listened to so far?

He is a person that you really must put everything down and listen to what is being said.

Which character as performed by Bill Moyers was your favorite?

Liked the Lady Bird eulogy

If you were to make a film of this book, what would be the tag line be?

Deep insights

You can't help but think critically

...about what it means to be an American as you listen to Bill Moyers. With the eloquence of a seasoned orator Moyers addresses West Point cadets, seminary students and mourners at Lady Bird Johnson's funeral. I'm on my second listen in less than a week.

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Title: Touching History

Subtitle: The Drama that Unfolded in the Skies over America on 9/11

Author: Lynn Spencer

Narrator: Joyce Bean

Format: Unabridged

Length: 9 hrs and 52 mins

Language: English

Release date: 07-02-08

Publisher: Tantor Audio

Ratings: 4.5 of 5 out of 95 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

In a round-robin narrative, in the style of Jim Dwyer and Kevin Flynn's 102 Minutes, Lynn Spencer takes listeners right to the front lines as the realization hits that multiple hijackings are underway - and then that the country is under attack.

Spencer follows the story all the way through the end of the day, when the fog of war had finally lifted and the country could assess exactly what had happened. The drama unfolds from a variety of perspectives, including the computer screen of the comptroller who first noticed that American flight 11 was off course; the phone call from a stewardess onboard alerting American Airlines that hijackers had killed two flight attendants and entered the cockpit; the battle cab of the military commander who ordered fighter jets in the air; the NASA-like operations floor of the FAA Command Center; and the cockpits of a number of the 4,500 commercial airliners flying over the United States that morning.

Spencer conducted hundreds of interviews and spoke to every key player in the airline industry and military who was involved in the major air events of the day. Based on highly detailed accounts from these interviews, as well as on the voluminous records of radio transmissions, Spencer fills in many holes in the story as it was reported by the 9/11 Commission. She also brings to pulse-quickening life the confusion, the horror, and the fierce determination and quick thinking of so many key players as they improvised their responses to a shocking new type of warfare.

Critic Reviews:

"Spencer...expertly elucidates the complexities and pitfalls of American aviation as it faced a staggering challenge." (Publishers Weekly)

Members Reviews:

Very Insightful - Puts the reader in the cockpit

Would you listen to Touching History again? Why?

Yes, I already have. It's just a gripping story that it's worth revisiting.

Who was your favorite character and why?

The airline pilots.

Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?

As a former USAF navigator I was impressed by the way the National Guard F-16 detachment at Langley AFB threw away the rule book and pressed on with the mission.

I was also impressed in a negative way about how useless the high levels of the Federal Government were. Apparently all the senior cabinet officials and military officers could do is join conference calls, chat with each other, and run around in circles.

All the key decisions were made by low level worker bees out in the field.

The only real guidance from the top came from Vice President Cheney, who authorized the military to shoot down a civilian airliner that was being hijacked.

Other than that the government's senior officials were useless.

Any additional comments?

This book desperately needed to be written. It is the story of how the aviation community reacted to the 9/11 attacks from the point of view of the pilots, dispatchers, controllers, and military officers.

The author is a professional pilot and it shows in the details. She does a good job of explaining the jargon and tools used within aviation in an easy to understand way for the lay reader.

I thought the narrator did a fine job.

Try "Voices of 9/11" Instead

I really should've listened to the sample before spending a whole credit on this, but I was on a sniffly, cry-into-a-tissue, 9/11 kick and bought this.

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Title: The Commission

Subtitle: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation

Author: Philip Shenon

Narrator: Dave Mallow

Format: Abridged

Length: 6 hrs and 37 mins

Language: English

Release date: 06-09-08

Publisher: Hachette Audio

Ratings: 4.5 of 5 out of 30 votes

Genres: History, 21st Century

Publisher's Summary:

Shenon uncovers startling new information about the inner workings of the 9/11 Commission and its relationship with the Bush White House. The Commission will change your understanding of the 9/11 investigation - and of the attacks themselves.

Critic Reviews:

"Shenon is a skillful writer and storyteller as well as a dogged reporter....He has a keen grasp of human frailty and folly." (The New York Times)

"I literally could not put it down....It owes a lot to Robert Ludlum. I felt I was reading a teleplay for 24."(Time)

"A startling, riveting, disturbing read about the "uncensored" History of the 9/11 investigation." (Publishers Weekly)

Members Reviews:

Met expectations

What did you love best about The Commission?

I really liked the delivery of this book and the story behind it.

What did you like best about this story?

After reading the 9/11 commission report, this book was extremely interested and could make a connection between the two.

What about Dave Mallows performance did you like?

I liked the tone of Dave Mallow's performance. It was easy to engage in the book and could understand every word.

If you were to make a film of this book, what would the tag line be?

How the heck did this happen!?

Very detailed

Is there anything you would change about this book?

The book has a lot of details. More info than I was looking for but don't let that deter you from buying it. It has some great information in it.

This Book Fills in a Few Missing Pieces

The Commission definitely has a liberal bias; however, what I found interesting about the book is that it gives the reader some background on most of the commissioners along with the staff members. For instance, if I had not listened to this book, I would have never known that Philip Zelikow, the Executive Director of the Commission and its day-to-day manager, had a cozy relationship with National Security Adviser, Condoleezza. Although the 9/11 Commission states in the Preface of its report that they were not out to assign individual blame, whether you're Liberal, Moderate (as I am) or Conservative, it caused me to view the entire report with some suspicion and then discovering that the Commission's executive Director was an acolyte of one of the Bush Administration's major figures, it added an even healthier dose of skepticism to my viewing of the report.

I particularly enjoyed his recounting of how the 911 Commission evolved after a number of widows of 9/11 forced Henry Kissinger's recusal from his Chairman's position because he refused to disclose the client list of his highly regard firm, Kissinger Associates.

Despite it's Liberal slant, Shenon does a good job filling in the missing pieces that are left out of the 9/11 Commission Report. As the old wise man once told me - "Eat the meat and pick the bones." It was certainly worth my time.

Hack jop -2 stars

A political hack job. The author has an agenda and presents all evidents to support it. If any evidents disagrees with his views, he simply ignores it or shades it. A waste of 6 hr