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  • Bellow Seizes Our Day

    9 May 2025

    Episode 5.15 - Bellow Seizes Our Day

    Sure we can philosophize, but what happens when we put carpe diem to the test in the modern world of capital?

    We work through Saul Bellow’s approach to carpe diem, how his ironies may not all be what we expect them to be, what separates Seize the Day from other modernist American literature, and how he spins our ethical discussion on carpe diem with still more complexity. Our analysis will focus on the final mystifying scene of the novel. Oh, and we also talk about my first efforts in business!

    Key Terms:

    • Trickster figure - Generally a trouble-making, cunning, or humorous character who upsets social norms. Trickster figures are often complex or paradoxical, and they are almost always transformational. Think of Loki in mythology, Bart Simpson, the Chesire Cat in Alice’s Wonderland, Bugs Bunny, Batman’s Joker, or Q in Star Trek.
    • The American Dream - “A kind of romantic expectation, a belief in the possibility of achieving some kind of glowing future through hard work and sincere devotion”  (Walter Brylowski).
    • Our Reading & Interpretation Process Complete:

      1. Notice - What text stands out in the reading?
      2. Significance - What possible meanings are in that text?
      3. Pattern - What pattern forms amongst these possible meanings?
      4. Coherence - Does the pattern hold together in the total work?
      5. The closing paragraph of Seize the Day which we focus our time on:

        “The flowers and lights fused ecstatically in Wilhelm’s blind, wet eyes; the heavy sea-like music came up to his ears. It poured into him where he had hidden himself in the center of a crowd by the great happy oblivion of tears. He heard it and sank deeper than sorrow, through torn sobs and cries toward the consummation of his heart’s ultimate need.”

        Complete Resources: https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/

        CHAPTERS

        00:00     The Dream

        05:56     Opening Theme
        06:28     A Glowing Future
        11:53     Bellow’s ‘Seize the Day’ in Brief
        15:56     Capitalism and Alienation
        22:50     Seizing and Seducing
        36:53     Ethics of a Machine
        43:17     Answering the Question
        52:04     Outro and Credits

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        Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-15-bellow-seizes-our-day

        Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

        What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

        ===

        Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

        Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

        Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

        Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

        Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

        Facebook: Waywords.Studio

        YouTube: Waywords Studio

        LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

        CREDITS:

        Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

        Chapter headings by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

        USING THIS WORK:

        This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

        MLA CITATION:

        Chisnell, Steve. “Bellow Seizes Our Day,’” Waywords Studio, 9 May 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/.

        54 min
      6. Rilke and Carpe Don’t Rhyme

        2 May 2025

        Episode 5.14 - Rilke and Carpe Don’t Rhyme

        Finding carpe diem in art and literature; abandoning “seize the day” and ending in uncertainty.

        What is required of us to find the power and meaning in art? in poetry? Is it related to carpe diem? And does it give us any guidance in how to approach meaningful lives?

        In a continuation of our carpe diem talk last episode, we return to Roman Krznaric, to Rainer Maria Rilke’s sonnet “Archaic Torso of Apollo,” and consider immanence, a kind of meaningfulness which “seize the day” might never discover.

        Key Terms:

        • immanence - something, perhaps abstract or spiritual, which is contained entirely within an object (naturally, divinely, permanently)
        • Complete Resources: https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/

          CHAPTERS

          00:00     The Mysteries of Art

          05:47     Opening Theme
          06:19     Merking “Seized”
          13:58     Rilke: Broken Art & Potent Readings
          24:07     Ethics Tests - A Reflection
          30:03     So What Do We Carpe?
          36:23     Outro and Credits

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          Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-14-rilke-and-carpe-dont-rhyme

          Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

          What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

          ===

          Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

          Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

          Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

          Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

          Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

          Facebook: Waywords.Studio

          YouTube: Waywords Studio

          LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

          CREDITS:

          Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

          Chapter headings by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

          USING THIS WORK:

          This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

          MLA CITATION:

          Chisnell, Steve. “Rilke and Carpe Don’t Rhyme,’” Waywords Studio, 2 May 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/.

          38 min
        • Carpe All Over the Place

          25 April 2025

          Episode 5.13 - Carpe All Over the Place

          How far away are we from the original meaning of carpe diem? And does it matter?

          Looking back across our wanderings so far, it seems that our literature and culture has gotten fairly sloppy (or cavalier?) in its popular imagination of philosophy, perhaps dangerously so. We investigate those understandings, capturing several modern approaches to carpe diem and contrasting them dramatically to where Epicurus and friends began.

          Along the way, we visit Thoreau, Rilke, and contemporary thinker/philosopher Roman Krznaric.

          Key Terms:

          • Eudaimonia (a deep well-being)
          • Ataraxia (peace of mind)
          • Aponia (freedom from pain)
          • Complete Resources: https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/

            CHAPTERS

            00:00  Thoreau vs Pop Culture

            05:45  Opening Theme
            06:17  Recap: Seize the Day, We Barely Knew You
            12:03  Poly-Carpes
            19:13  An Epicurean Ideal?
            28:47  Krznaric’s Carpe
            31:46  Outro and Credits

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            Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-13-carpe-all-over-the-place

            Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

            What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

            ===

            Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

            Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

            Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

            Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

            Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

            Facebook: Waywords.Studio

            YouTube: Waywords Studio

            LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

            CREDITS:

            Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

            Chapter headings by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

            USING THIS WORK:

            This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

            MLA CITATION:

            Chisnell, Steve. “Carpe All Over the Place,’” Waywords Studio, 25 April 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/.

            33 min
          • Star Trek: “World Enough and Time”

            18 April 2025

            Episode 5.12 - Star Trek: “World Enough and Time”

            Can some fan-fiction teach us more about carpe diem than a classic Roman poet?

            Let’s get over ourselves a bit and give this fan-produced Star Trek episode a chance. How we decide literary quality, how we work with allusion, and how we interpret contemporary texts are all fair game in this episode that finds some surprising depth in the screenwriting in a science fiction literary niche.

            Watch the New Voyages episode, “World Enough and Time” (2008):  https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TC5wl0IzE

            Our Steps In Literary Interpretation:

            1. Notice
            2. Significance
            3. Pattern
            4.   (tba)
            5. Complete Resources: https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/

              CHAPTERS

              00:00   Trekkie Love

              03:35   Theme
              04:08   Un-Trashing Mass Culture
              10:02   New Voyages Backgrounder
              14:18   Alluding to “World Enough and Time”
              17:42   Star Trek Answers Marvell (All Spoilers!)
              27:52   Did We Get an Answer?
              34:42   Outro & Credits

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              Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-12-star-trek-world-enough-and-time

              Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

              What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

              ===

              Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

              Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

              Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

              Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

              Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

              Facebook: Waywords.Studio

              YouTube: Waywords Studio

              LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

              CREDITS:

              Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

              Chapter headings by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

              USING THIS WORK:

              This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

              MLA CITATION:

              Chisnell, Steve. “Star Trek: ‘World Enough and Time’,’” Waywords Studio, 18 April 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/.

              36 min
            6. Not Horacing Around: Ode 1.11

              11 April 2025

              Episode 5.11 - Not Horacing Around: Ode 1.11

              Can an ancient Roman poet offer insight into carpe diem?  Perhaps, but then again . . .

              Along the way, we talk about Catullus, Horace and his Odes, the translation of “seize the day” vs. “pluck” or “harvest,” a close analysis of Ode 1.11’s imagery and possible subtext, parallels between Horace and Andrew Marvell’s “To His Coy Mistress,” “Seize the Day” and popular imagination, Roman poetic meter and choriambs, a possible Epicurean revision through harvest metaphors, and the sorting of domestic pigs. The Mailbag segment reminds listeners how much material from Waywords is Creative Commons copyright.

              https://waywordsstudio.com

              Complete Resources: https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/

              CHAPTERS

              00:00   My Poem Asks a Question

              06:02   Opening Theme
              06:35   Odes, Book 1, Poem 11
              12:37   Mistranslation’s Tradition
              20:34   Reconciliations
              23:32   Idealism and Harvests
              28:18   Mailbag: Can I Get a Copy of Your Poem?
              30:45   Closing Theme

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              Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-not-horacing-around/

              Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

              What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

              ===

              Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

              Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

              Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

              Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

              Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

              Facebook: Waywords.Studio

              YouTube: Waywords Studio

              LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

              CREDITS:

              Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

              Chapter headings by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

              USING THIS WORK:

              This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

              MLA CITATION:

              Chisnell, Steve. “Not Horacing Around: Ode 1.11,’” Waywords Studio, 11 April 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/project/andrew-marvell-coy-mistress/.

              32 min
            7. Writing Back: Answering Marvell

              4 April 2025

              Episode 5.10  - Writing Back: Answering Marvell

              Writing back to authors and their works is essential to the literary culture; it also helps us answer our essential questions. Let’s do some of that, then!

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              Chapters

              00:00  ERROR #5210b
              05:10  Intro Theme
              05:42  Matching Sabers
              09:00  The Sport of Kings
              13:02  What’s On Your Mind? Marvell Re-Ironied
              19:19  The School of Reply
              23:07  “To His Bold Master”
              25:20  What To Do With It
              28:33  Outro and Credits
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              Poems Cited:

              • Finch, Annie - “Coy Mistress” - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46082/coy-mistress
              • Hope, A D - “His Coy Mistress to Mr. Marvell” - https://allpoetry.com/His-Coy-Mistress-To-Mr.-Marvell
              • Send me your poetry replies!  Email me: [email protected]

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                Complete Resources:   https://waywordsstudio.com/project/marvell/

                Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

                Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-10-writing-back-answering-marvell

                What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

                ===

                Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

                Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

                Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

                Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

                Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

                Facebook: Waywords.Studio

                YouTube: Waywords Studio

                LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

                CREDITS:

                Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

                Transitions by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

                USING THIS WORK:

                This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

                MLA CITATION:

                Chisnell, Steve. “Writing Back: Answering Marvell.” Waywords Studio, 4 April 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/waywords_podcast/writing-back-answering-marvell.

                30 min
              • Kipling’s “If” and Irony-Hunting

                28 March 2025

                Episode 5.09  - Kipling’s “If” and Irony-Hunting

                Where do we find irony, anyway? And how? An answer in an offer of cheese.

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                Chapters

                00:00    Cheese, Please
                06:00    Opening Theme
                06:40    Yes, But Is It Irony?
                15:17    It’s Like, Literally, Everywhere
                26:26    Reading of “If—“
                28:32    If There’s Irony in “If”
                42:33    Mailbag: Other Literary Terms?
                45:51    Outro and Credits

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                “Suicide’s Note” by Langston Hughes:

                The calm, 
                Cool face of the river
                Asked me for a kiss. 

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                “We Real Cool” by Gwendolyn Brooks:

                     We Real Cool

                    The Pool Players.
                         Seven at the Golden Shovel.

                            We real cool. We   
                            Left school. We

                            Lurk late. We
                            Strike straight. We

                            Sing sin. We   
                            Thin gin. We

                            Jazz June. We   
                            Die soon.

                ===

                “If—” by Rudyard Kipling:

                (from ‘Brother Square-Toes’—Rewards and Fairies)

                If you can keep your head when all about you
                Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
                If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
                But make allowance for their doubting too;
                If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
                Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
                Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
                And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

                If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
                If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
                If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
                And treat those two impostors just the same;
                If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
                Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
                Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
                And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

                If you can make one heap of all your winnings
                And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
                And lose, and start again at your beginnings
                And never breathe a word about your loss;
                If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
                To serve your turn long after they are gone,
                And so hold on when there is nothing in you
                Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

                If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
                Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
                If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
                If all men count with you, but none too much;
                If you can fill the unforgiving minute
                With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
                Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
                And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

                ===

                Complete Resources:   https://waywordsstudio.com/project/marvell/

                Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

                Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-09-kiplings-if-and-irony-hunting

                What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

                ===

                Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

                Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

                Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

                Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

                Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

                Facebook: Waywords.Studio

                YouTube: Waywords Studio

                LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

                CREDITS:

                Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

                Transitions by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

                USING THIS WORK:

                This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

                MLA CITATION:

                Chisnell, Steve. “Kipling’s ‘If’ and Irony-Hunting.” Waywords Studio, 28 March 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/waywords_podcast/kiplings-if-and-irony-hunting

                47 min
              • Dorian Gray and Difficult Conversations

                12 March 2025

                Episode 5.07  - Dorian Gray and Difficult Conversations

                Where do we find people to talk to about our reading? And what do we say when we find them?

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                Chapters

                00:00    Disturbing the Olive Garden
                06:14    Opening Theme
                06:47    Lost Roads and Madness
                16:31    Dorian: The Seduction Fulfilled
                23:11    Some Discussion Strategies
                32:00    Yes, But Where?
                42:04    Do I Have To?
                44:49    Mailbag: Too Much?
                48:56    Closing Shot & Theme

                ===

                Goals of Good Literature Talks:

                1. Maintain and grow relationships
                2. Avoid violence (of any kind)
                3. Have everyone agree to civility
                4. Engage the literary questions
                5. Listen and build upon what you hear
                  1. “Ethical attentiveness”
                  2. Some: Discussion Strategies:

                    • Use “I” Statements
                    • State what you notice
                    • Draw others out to say more
                    • Keep questions open
                    • Places to Find/Build Communities for Talk:

                      • Book Clubs
                      • Literary Festivals
                      • Academic Classes and Webinars
                      • Open Mic Nights
                      • Online platforms: Discord, reddit, Goodreads
                      • “Fishing” with Allusions in Everyday Speech
                      • Storytelling Circles
                      • Poetry Slams
                      • Author Talks and Book Signings
                      • Public Library Reading Programs and Groups 
                      • Book Stores
                      • Literature Podcasts
                      • Read to Those Who Cannot Read Themselves
                      • Buddy Reads
                      • Neighborhood Book Exchanges
                      • Book Swaps
                      • Little Free Library projects
                      • Add Book Talks into an activity you already do (i.e. Book Discussion Walking Club)
                      • Travel to a Popular Literary Location
                      • Readers’ Theater
                      • Silent Book Clubs
                      • Shared Reading in Parks or Cafes
                      • Read-Aloud Gatherings
                      • Read-a-thons/Read-ins
                      • Literary Pub Quizzes
                      • Guest Speakers & Authors
                      • Literary Salons
                      • “Pop-Up” Book Talks
                      • “Read and Dine” Event
                      • Hosting your own informal get-togethers at home
                      • The excerpt from Oscar Wilde’s The Picture of Dorian Gray:

                        He played with the idea and grew wilful; tossed it into the air and transformed it; let it escape and recaptured it; made it iridescent with fancy and winged it with paradox. The praise of folly, as he went on, soared into a philosophy, and philosophy herself became young, and catching the mad music of pleasure, wearing, one might fancy, her wine-stained robe and wreath of ivy, danced like a Bacchante over the hills of life, and mocked the slow Silenus for being sober. Facts fled before her like frightened forest things. Her white feet trod the huge press at which wise Omar sits, till the seething grape-juice rose round her bare limbs in waves of purple bubbles, or crawled in red foam over the vat’s black, dripping, sloping sides. It was an extraordinary improvisation. He felt that the eyes of Dorian Gray were fixed on him, and the consciousness that amongst his audience there was one whose temperament he wished to fascinate seemed to give his wit keenness and to lend colour to his imagination. He was brilliant, fantastic, irresponsible. He charmed his listeners out of themselves, and they followed his pipe, laughing. Dorian Gray never took his gaze off him, but sat like one under a spell, smiles chasing each other over his lips and wonder growing grave in his darkening eyes.

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                        100+ Poems & Short Stories for Challenging Conversations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o_XYH70qp2N6g3Dhp_MXqsAdrhEM0-rEEH9EJOZ1kSc/edit?usp=sharing

                        Complete Resources:   https://waywordsstudio.com/project/marvell/

                        Have a Question? Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

                        Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-08-dorian-gray-and-difficult-conversations/

                        What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

                        ===

                        Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

                        Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

                        Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

                        Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

                        Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

                        Facebook: Waywords.Studio

                        YouTube: Waywords Studio

                        LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

                        CREDITS:

                        Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

                        Transitions by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

                        USING THIS WORK:

                        This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

                        MLA CITATION:

                        Chisnell, Steve. “Dorian Gray and Difficult Conversations.” Waywords Studio, 21 March 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/waywords_podcast/dorian-gray-and-difficult-conversations/

                        50 min
                      • Reading and Living in Uncertainty

                        14 March 2025

                        Episode 5.07  - Reading and Living in Uncertainty

                        What do we mean by uncertainty in reading? And why do we have to look for it?

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                        Chapters

                        00:00    Pianos and Birds and Empty Spaces
                        04:32    Opening Theme
                        05:13    Fear and Uncertainty and Fuzzy Dice
                        10:33    Books and Literature and Rubik’s Cubes
                        16:18    Healthy and Sustained Uncertainty and Ralph Ellison
                        24:19    Crisis and Volatility and the Role of Literature
                        32:28    Wondering and Noticing and Talking
                        35:36    Mailbag: Too Much?
                        38:05    Closing Shot & Theme

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                        Reasons to embrace uncertainty in our reading practice:

                        1. Discovery of complex or nuanced messages left by the author
                        2. Keeps literature more engaging, interesting, lasting
                        3. Allows us to discover new meanings with each visit
                        4. Keeps us cognitively human
                        5. Builds resilience and agency for meeting real-world volatile changes
                        6.  

                          The excerpt from Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man:

                          One night, I accidentally bumped into a man, and perhaps because of the near darkness he saw me and called me an insulting name.  I sprang at him, seized his coat lapels and demanded that he apologize.  He was a tall blond man, and as my face came close to his he looked insolently out of his blue eyes and cursed me, his breath hot in my face as he struggled.

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                          Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

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                          Transitions by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

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                          MLA CITATION:

                          Chisnell, Steve. “Reading and Living in Uncertainty.” Waywords Studio, 14 March 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-07-reading-and-living-in-uncertainty/

                          40 min
                        7. What I Carry With Me

                          7 March 2025

                          Episode 5.06  - What I Carry With Me

                          What questions do we carry with us as we leave Marvell’s famous poem?

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                          Chapters

                          00:00   Packing for the Trip

                          02:14   Opening Theme
                          02:52   Trails and Tools and Mail
                          08:38   Six Lousy Questions
                          09:31   1 What should I do about mortality?
                          11:49   2. What should I do with the Now?
                          13:43   3, What is the relationship between rhetoric and reason?
                          15:57   4. Why the need to reproduce?
                          17:32   5. Can writers shed accountability?
                          21:26   6. If I carry so much, how will I get anything read?
                          23:44   The Path Forward
                          25:08   Mailbag: Keeping it all straight
                          28:15   Closing Theme

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                          The Full Questions:

                          1. What should I do about my own mortality?
                          2. What should I do with the Now?
                          3. What is the relationship between rhetoric and Reason?
                          4. Why this impetus towards reproduction, anyway?
                          5. How much do writers shed accountability for their ideas through this ironic narrative distance?
                          6. Finally, if I’m carrying so much from just one poem, how will I get anything read and understood?
                          7. Literary Tools Mentioned in the Episode:

                            1. Irony - Especially dramatic irony, that of characters with a more limited perception than others have
                            2. Narrative distance - A specific kind of dramatic irony where we see our speaker or narrator as a separate (though connected) character from the author
                            3. Ambiguity - That parts of a work may not have clear “answers” to their meaning.
                            4. Polysemy - The idea that an image or work will, in fact, speak many ideas at one time. 
                            5. Discomfiture - That literature like this makes us sometimes ill-at-ease with its ambiguities, and that this is, by itself, nothing to fear. 
                            6. Accountability - An ethic for readers to hold ourselves and others responsible for our choices and readings. 
                            7. And also a few terms like sfumato, iambic meter, and fallacy that we’ve touched upon but not explored at any real length, yet.
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                              What are your thoughts on our discussion?  Email me: [email protected]

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                              Transcript:  https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/transcript-5-06-what-i-carry-with-me

                              Literary Nomads is the primary program of Waywords Studio (https://waywordsstudio.com). The podcast posts new material each week, with thought-provoking examinations of literature around selected questions or themes and several smaller supplemental episodes in between the larger programs: history, writing, and contemporary applications of ideas.

                              Visit us for expanded resources for guests and the Waywords community, for other programs and writing, and for opportunities to support our goal to expand reading. Resources available can include full bibliographies of material referenced, full and partial texts, annotated editions, supplemental and expanded episodes, fictional explorations, teaching and learning resources, additional essays, and online courses.

                              Literary Nomads Mailbag: https://forms.gle/MmhqcGgeLcjCaVK97

                              Website:  https://waywordsstudio.com

                              Newsletter: https://waywordsstudio.kit.com/

                              Instagram: @WaywordsStudio

                              Facebook: Waywords.Studio

                              YouTube: Waywords Studio

                              LinkedIn: Waywords-Studio

                              CREDITS:

                              Original music by Randon Myles (https://randonmyles.com/)

                              Transitions by Natalie Harrison and Sarah Skaleski

                              USING THIS WORK:

                              This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. It is open to be used and adapted for all not-for-profit uses with proper attribution.

                              MLA CITATION:

                              Chisnell, Steve. “What I Carry With Me.” Waywords Studio, 7 March 2025, https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/waywords_podcast/what-i-carry-with-me/.

                              30 min

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