On a special “How To Win 2024’ edition, live from the 92nd Street Y, MSNBC’s Katy Tur hosts former Senator Claire McCaskill and former White House Communications Director Jen Palmieri to talk about Biden’s record, Trump’s base of support and what's at stake in the coming presidential election.  Among the issues they touch on: the war in Gaza, the Alabama IVF ruling, the immigration stalemate, and the Supreme Court decision to hear Trump’s immunity claim. Plus: questions from the audience bring some somber moments and lots of laughter.

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