In this special live edition of Need to Know, recorded at Contact in the Desert, Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel sit down in front of a packed audience to reflect on their personal origin stories with the UFO/UAP mystery. From Ross’s early investigative journalism to Bryce’s work in Hollywood and exposure to firsthand testimony, both share the compelling “aha” moments that pulled them deeper into the phenomenon. The conversation dives into some of the most significant cases that continue to shape their perspectives, including historical sightings, government secrecy, and the whistleblowers who have risked everything to speak out. It’s a revealing and thoughtful dialogue that offers fans a deeper understanding of what drives their work. The episode also opens up to the audience with a live Q&A session, where Ross and Bryce respond to insightful and sometimes provocative questions from attendees. Their answers shed light on the current state of disclosure, the role of journalism and entertainment in shaping public understanding, and how the broader community can contribute to pushing the conversation forward. With honest reflection, humor, and a sense of urgency, this episode captures the spirit of the conference and reminds us why staying curious and informed is more important than ever.

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