Recorded live at the 2023 CLOC Global Institute in Las Vegas, this episode features special guests Denise Doyle (Managing Director of Legal Operations, modCounsel) and Farrah Pepper (Chief Legal Innovation Counsel, Marsh McLennan).

During her conversation with Alex Kelly, Denise shared some key advice for legal ops leaders that are in the early stages of developing their organization's legal operations function, and spoke on how law firms can collaborate more effectively with their clients.

Farrah stopped by to share her insights on the importance of saying "yes" to new professional challenges, and traced her career journey to legal operations. She also spoke a bit about how she worked her way up to becoming CLOC's current Vice President.