Scott and Joe Wheeler discuss Joe's journey of gaining 45 pounds and becoming a dad, leading to his book "Dad Bod." Joe emphasizes the importance of personal health and wellness, sharing his 67-pound weight loss journey from 225 to 159 pounds. He highlights the significance of sustainable lifestyle changes, focusing on protein intake and ketogenic dieting. Joe also discusses the psychological impact of weight gain and the need for accountability. Scott shares his own experiences with dietary choices and the importance of a clean kitchen.

Both agree on the significance of being present and engaged with family, emphasizing the transformative power of personal health goals. The conversation revolves around a program designed to help individuals adopt a new lifestyle through daily habits and a full diet plan. Scott emphasizes the importance of mindset and psychological aspects in achieving these changes. Joe discusses the program's 30-day structure, which includes digestible nuggets of information and mantras to support mental and physical transformation. They also touch on the challenges men face in connecting and supporting each other, with Scott mentioning his newer initiative, a Men of Mindset Night, to bring together high-level thinking men. The discussion concludes with Scott encouraging listeners to take control of their journeys and Joe promoting his book and dietary plan.

Joe Wheeler, J.D., LL.M., is a Seattle-based technology attorney, husband, and dad of three who writes for the guys trying to hold it all together. When he is not practicing law, he is coaching his kids’ softball and basketball teams, reading, writing, and squeezing in pickup sports.

I’m a basic, normal guy with a job, a wife, and three kids. Over eleven years and three pregnancies, I gained forty-five pounds of sympathy weight. My dadbod crept up while everything around me said it was fine — even sexy. It wasn’t fine. And I think you know that too.

1. The power of journaling and true authenticity.
2. Individual mens health and wellness transformation that benefits your community as a whole.
3. Accountability and support to ensure success.

• https://yourdadbod.com

• https://vinnietortorich.com/

https://youtu.be/fAL0687dw9M

15:20 – You are just focusing on survival, Dad Mode, Super Dad, husband, baby number two, the career, etc. Next thing you know, I'm 45 pounds heavier. Yes, I have three kids, I'm still in the same job, and I didn't have a lot of control over that. Life happens, but it happens to all of us, and at what point are you going to take back that control and say "I'm making my life", it's not just happening to me anymore.

35:30 – I lost my weight goal and I was generally much happier, but then I thought I could still be better. I thought I could maybe push it some more and then I would challenge myself and say why not just do it. How far can I go? How good can I feel? How much weight can I actually lose? I mean, I lost the weight of my child!

59:45 – It's about creating that habit and starting that better habit because the adjustments are needed for that healthy lifestyle shift. 30 days is a simple commitment and we can all do it!

01:04:00 – Final Words

I would love to share with your listeners that you can accept that you are on your own journey. If it is not the journey you want to be on, it is okay to change it. You have the control to do that, so please allow yourself to do so.

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Welcome to the return of a new Men of Mindset themed episode! This is our sixth event hosted live from Scott's Man-zone Barn aka FUEL HQ. This episode includes multiple new voices at this sixth gathering under Scott's theme of the Men of Mindset. As a general overview for this special episode, they continued emphasizing the importance of mindset and personal growth.

They discuss the significance of spirituality, health, family, and business in personal success. Mike shares a heartwarming story about a former student who credited him with helping him graduate high school. The conversation highlights the need for human connection, the impact of technology on mindset, and the importance of continuous self-improvement and resilience. The discussion centered on the impact of leadership and service, emphasizing the importance of genuine care and positive pressure to perform. The conversation underscored the value of servant leadership, the ripple effect of goodwill, and the necessity of self-care before helping others. Key points included the significance of respect, the power of positive influence, and the need for mentorship across age groups. The session concluded with a call to action for continuous personal and professional growth.

~ Inner Strength: Mahatma Gandhi, it comes from an indomitable will, highlighting that resilience is a mental and spiritual trait.

• Mike (Mak) Makhoul, Former Educator, now a Commercial & Residential Real Estate Professional,https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-makhoul-m-ed-bb995069/
• Chris Saraceno, Author of The Theory of 5,https://theoryof5.com/and Vice President of Kelly Automotive Group.
• Jesse Dugan, Founder and Chiropractor,https://www.pain2performancechiro.com/
• Ony Momah, Psychiatrist,https://onymomah.com/

ONY MOMAH:

1. The significance of mindset, particularly for men, and the importance of surrounding oneself with positive influences.
2. Discusses the concept of identity decompression, particularly for athletes and professionals transitioning to new roles.
3. Audience advice to be cautious about the people they allow into their lives and to take care of their minds.

CHRIS SARACENO:

1. The Theory of 5, involving spirituality, marriage, children, business, and health, and the importance of surrounding oneself with the right people.
2. The importance of leading by example and not needing a direct coaching role to positively influence others.
3. Greater appreciation for the importance of continuous growth at any stage of life.

JESSE DUGAN:

1. Emphasizes the importance of in-person connections and the benefits of activities like powerlifting and outdoor activities.
2. The importance of showing care and truly connecting while building trust with clients aka patients.
3. The value and role of greater trust in the profession of chiropractic care practices.

MIKE (MAK) MAKHOUL:

1. The importance of strong faith and keeping a spiritual connection to maintain a positive mindset.
2. The importance of setting standards and living by values, and the need for continuous self-improvement.
3. Mak shares a quote attributed to Saint Francis of Assisi about teaching and preaching the word of God through actions.

Honorable mentions of earlier visitors who had to depart before recording included:

• Justin Schenck, Founder of The Growth Now Movement and The Growth Now Summit LIVE,https://www.justintschenck.com/
• Rob Eschbach, Founder of F13 Performance,https://f13performance.com/and Resistance Strength,https://www.resistancestrength.fit/

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I've been using those quote for years: "We are the product of the five people we spend most time with." This is a translation from the famous Jim Rohn quote: "You are teh average of the five people you spend the most time with." This is about that psychological shift, when you start changing the people that are around you. I've said this years ago, it doesn't mean you have to cut them out of your life. Some distance is necessary when you are looking for growth. If they don't respect that, if you respect them enough, and you want them to respect you in return, and you must let them know that. If you do not, they will still continue to not take that seriously, then you need to give them a break. This is important when you're trying to grow, so you can help them in the future, or those around you, and it's like, hey guys, I need to take a pause.

There you go, ladies and gentlemen, great combo. I'm gonna sum this up. We're here to FUEL your health, business, a lifestyle. All the gentlemen did that tonight, so thank you for tuning in for a sixth Men Of Mindset.

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Founder and host, Scott Mulvaney, discusses his business and personal life from his hotel in Waterloo, New York. He explains his role as a manufacturer's representative, focusing on the HVAC industry, and his primary income streams, including Fuel Enterprises vs Fuel Foundations, a nonprofit that supports Wildland Firefighters through the Boots Refuel Fund. Scott details his travel schedule, emphasizing the importance of work-life balance and his commitment to financial freedom. He also shares his passion for learning, particularly in technology, and his plans to record his book "So You Want To Be A Hotshot" as an audio book. Scott highlights the significance of building professional relationships and the impact of his nonprofit work for firefighters.

1. Inside look into Scott's business travels lifestyle.
2. The power of business relationships
3. Defining the "Freedom Trifecta".
4. Travel and work-life balance.
5. Embracing technology and learning new things.

• FuelUpMarketing.com
• FUELFoundations.org
• HotshotBook.com

• UI.com

• https://youtu.be/jZYHYW-oNkQ

29:10 – Final Words

I hope that those you've all listened to this episode, you've taken some, maybe a small piece of my weirdo, crazy motivation and inspiration to bring new things into your own life or your family's life, to keep yourself driven, motivated and/or just busy. All right, the more things you do with these, these your two hands, using your brain, your eyes, and your ears, the better. Yes, I'm talking about not plugged in on social media and the Drama Fest of the Negative News Networks. Stay unplugged because you get so much more done and so much more achieved in your life, and especially over the past year or two for me, it's been crazy. So I am constantly finding ways to push that negative content out of my life. You and I will always have it, it's just not worth it.

Allow that incoming bandwidth, to speak in internet terms, that incoming bandwidth of positive content, and if that means you have to generate it, meaning getting outside, playing with your dog, spending time with your wife, becoming a geek about barn remodeling and home internet security infrastructure, whatever is going to motivate you, whatever is going to get you to the next level of success in life. The only way to get there is to unplug from the distractions and plug yourself into the things that are going to get you there. Then, along that path, add in random things that some people would consider a distraction, but for me, it's stimulating. It's stimulating my brain, right? It's stimulating new synaptic pathways, new learning patterns, new things that create conversation that might pop up.

I'm learning about all that security system stuff from Ubiquiti for their UniFi platform, I ended up geeking out one of the executives from this distribution company that was having issues because they use it in their businesses and their branch locations. So I never expected that connection to happen, but because I chose to try and learn something new, all of a sudden, I know enough that I can actually hold the conversation. Who knows where that could go.

So that's what I'll leave you guys with as a reminder, the show's not going away. I've promised to break 500 episodes for the past probably year and a half. I know the last couple episodes I hinted about finally recording my book that I put out, So You Want To Be A Hotshot, as a reminder, all proceeds from that on Amazon go to the charity as well, besides my income. So you can find that on Amazon. You can also find it from our website via FuelFoundations.org on the Hotshot Book page. Hotshotbook.com that URL will take you directly to the Amazon listing too. But I need to finally get the audio book done, so that's where the podcast comes in. I'm going to record each chapter and release them as digital content in the podcast world separately, because I just I need to sit down and record them anyway. So why not do that as extra motivation for new content in the podcast? Because there are some of you out there that might not sit back and listen to an audio book or sit down and read the book, but it is a story about the transformation from me serving as a hot shot wildland firefighter. The lessons learned from that, and now fast forward all these years later. Why I really still care about it and want to give back, you know, with my foundation and buying boots for wildland firefighters, etc. So anyway, thanks for tuning in, ladies and gentlemen, remember you too, can LIVE THE FUEL! We'll talk to you guys again soon.

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Jared St. Clair, a seasoned health expert with 30 years of experience, discussed his journey from local radio to podcasting and his family's 48-year-old supplement store, Vitality Nutrition. He emphasized the importance of education in supplementation, advocating for high-quality, third-party tested products. Jared highlighted his "vital five" supplements: magnesium, omega-3s, a great multivitamin, probiotics, and D-mannose. He criticized mass-produced supplements for their low quality and stressed the need for consumers to be informed and cautious. Jared also mentioned the challenges of maintaining product integrity in a competitive market, particularly on platforms like Amazon.

Jared St. Clair is an herbalist and expert natural supplement formulator with over 30 years of hands-on experience running Vitality Nutrition, a well-known health store in Utah. He’s known for his “Vital

5” essential supplements and has crafted highly effective formulas and protocols for health concerns, from digestive issues and hormone imbalances to immune support and emotional wellness. As the host

of the Vitality Radio Podcast, Jared educates listeners on mastering natural supplements to thrive without pharmaceuticals, making him a leading voice in holistic health.

1. The necessity to research and make informed decisions about proper supplements.
2. Vital Five: essential supplements for most adults: magnesium, omega-3s, a great multivitamin, probiotics, and D-mannose.
3. Understanding the DSHEA, Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act and its impct on the supplement industry.

• vitalitynutrition.com
• https://www.instagram.com/vitalitynutritionbountiful/
• https://www.facebook.com/MyVitality/
• Vitality Radio Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vitality-radio-podcast-with-jared-st-clair/id1499760048

• NCBI - High perfomance liquid chromatography in pharmaceutical analyses -https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15629016/
• FDA - Facts About the Current Good Manufacturing Practice (CGMP) -https://www.fda.gov/drugs/pharmaceutical-quality-resources/facts-about-current-good-manufacturing-practice-cgmp

https://youtu.be/eMSORbfe-PY

11:40 – It got to the point before I bought the store, when I was 22 years old, I'd managed it from 15 to 22 and in that timeframe, we finally started to actually turn a profit. But the essentially, most of that money was either going back into the store to try and keep it humming and by the time I was a little bit older, my parents finally gave me a living wage.

21:45 – So part of my Vital Five is magnesium. The deficiency of magnesium is crazy, and I have my preferred version of magnesium, which is bisglycinate. For most people, omega 3's, unless you are doing what you need to do in your diet to get enough omega threes, wild caught Alaskan salmon, grass fed beef. It's actually a great place to get omega 3's. There's few things like that, but they're fairly tough to get enough of, and most people, not you, because of the way you're choosing to eat, are getting a load of omega six fatty acids from all the vegetable oils and seed oils and things like that. So our ratios are way off. So omega three makes a lot of sense for those reasons. And then a great multivitamin. I always preface multivitamin with great, because most multivitamins are not great.

33:08 – Essentially, structure function means you can point to the area of the body that where the structure is that you're trying to treat and the optimized function of that area of the body, but you can't point towards anything that would be considered a disease claim.

41:50 – CGMP is a certification that is essentially a partnership between FDA and the industry, which is a weird partnership, because it's kind of an adversarial thing too. CGMP is good manufacturing practices certified. And then there's companies that will actually inspect based on that, like NSF and some of these other companies.

50:45 – Many of these larger companies are big enough and they're too big to fail, so to speak, kind of like the old bank crashes. They'll follow the standards. What they do, though, is they cheat on other areas. They cheat on the marketing of it, and they start to deteriorate the quality of the formula without necessarily lying about what's in the product, but taking advantage of an uninformed consumer and putting lower quality versions of those things in the product. So usually the product gets worse, but they're still CGMP because CGMP is just the process of how you make it. Pfizer is making Centrum with CGMP, and they're still passing the test, but they're putting the very lowest quality vitamins and minerals they possibly can put in the product, because they're looking to make mazimum profit.

01:00:30 – Final Words

But I think what it really boils down to is this in America, especially in other countries as well, but I think in America, it's almost a little more uniquely an American issue. We've been trained to turn our health care over to a so called expert, and often at times, that guy is in a white coat and has a degree, and we think, and I'm not just picking on MDs, but chiropractors, functional medicine, doctors, guys like me, guys like Vinnie,, you listen and you're like, man, that guy's really smart. I'm gonna believe him and I'm gonna do what he says. I don't think that's wise, no matter who you're listening to. Ultimately, your health is your responsibility, and if you've got kids, their health is your responsibility, and it behooves you to get educated yourself now you use resources like me and Vinnie and so many other great resources out there. There's some awesome ones. Find people that you trust and research through those avenues, for sure, but ultimately trusting any one source for your health education, I think is a mistake.

You've got to to test the market and look at who's out there and what they're saying and because you're getting competing messages for sure, and know what their biases are. I'm very open about mine. I'm a supplement guy. I sell supplements for a living, and so know that when you're talking to me in the back of my head, I'm sure, whether it's conscious or subconscious, I'm hoping you're going to buy something from me, and that's kind of the case. That's what capitalism is, I guess, right? But ultimately, don't just take the prescription that the doctor prescribes and assume that he knows what he's doing and that what that and that prescription is in your best interest. Don't just buy the product that the influencer is telling you is the product that he uses, and just assume that it's good. Because of that, be your own boss of your health. If you do that, I think you get the best results and and you create a level of confidence for yourself to where you're able to make those decisions moving forward. As you start getting the results, you're proving that point.

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Happy New Year 2026 from the barn aka FUEL HQ. Your host, Scott Mulvaney, reflects on the progress and future plans for his personal and professional life. He discusses his recent projects, including installing a new heating system in his barn, acquiring a high-quality salt spreader, and setting up a gym with new equipment. He also mentions his now 10 years of podcasting, the launch of his Boots Refuel Fund from his charity, Fuel Foundations, and his goal to pay off his house by age 50. Additionally, he plans to record an audio version of his book, "So You Want to Be a Hotshot," and encourages listeners to support his charity by donating to the Boots Refuel Fund.

1. After 10 years of podcasting, continue your own Personal and Professional development!
2. Health and Fitness FUELS everything, especially your own Health, Business, and Lifestyle.
3. Find and embrace your own Freedom Trifecta of Time Freedom, Location Freedom, and Financial Freedom.

• Visit to donate or learn more athttps://fuelfoundations.org/
• VisitHotshotBook.comto find the book on Amazon

• Michael Michalowicz, Profit First,https://mikemichalowicz.com/profit-first/
• Jim Collins, BHAG - Big Hairy Audacious Goals,https://www.jimcollins.com/concepts/bhag.html
• Dave Ramsey, Ramsey Solutions,https://www.ramseysolutions.com/

https://youtu.be/8ZDfJq4_ye8

• New radiant heating system is now tested and live in the barn.
• Reflecting on the evolution of the barn from an empty canvas to a bustling workspace. 
• 2026 is 10 years of podcasting.
• Reflecting on the Wildland Firefighting history that birthed the FUEL Foundations and the Boots Refuel Fund.
• The importance of Health and Fitness being integrated into everything in life while staying committed for success.
• New Financial Goals with a BHAG of owing nothing and owning the home by age 50 in less than 2 years.
• Learning and implementing the Freedom Trifecta which is Time, Location, and Financial freedom.
• The power of learning Psychology, developing a bulletproof mindset, with ongoing commitents to Personal and Professional development.
• Committing to finally recording the audiobook of "So You Want To Be A Hotshot" to help increase fundraising.

If I commit to a book chapter for each podcast episode, I know I can get the audiobook done finally. So I'm going to be releasing the chapters here in the LIVETHEFUEL world as I get each one done, and then hopefully loyal fans go and buy the audio book and or the physical book and share. So thank you in advance. That's just a little snippet for the future here in 2026 thanks for listening again. Thank you for subscribing.

Go check out HotshotBook.com that takes you directly to the book listing on Amazon for "So You Want To Be A Hotshot". If you're big fans of wildland firefighters and the sacrifices that first responders make, you can go visit FuelFoundations.org and go donate to the Boots Refuel Fund. I appreciate that too. It's a legit 501-c3, fully tax exempt. I take no money out of it. As I said earlier, 5% of my own business activities goes into it. So as I make more money, that means more donations are going in. So that being said, thanks for tuning in, and remember you too can live the fuel. We'll talk to you guys again soon.

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Your host, Scott Mulvaney and today's guest co-host Dr. John Neustadt discuss the importance of balancing health, business, and lifestyle. Dr. Neustadt, an expert in integrative medicine, emphasizes the impact of chronic stress on health, particularly cortisol's role in bone loss and gut health. He advocates for personal responsibility in health, highlighting the inadequacy of traditional medical approaches. They discuss the benefits of whole foods, protein intake, and the pitfalls of ultra-processed foods. Dr. Neustadt's company, NBI Health, focuses on high-quality supplements, particularly Vitamin K2 (MK-4) for bone health, which has shown to reduce fractures by over 70%. They stress the importance of reading labels and understanding bioavailability. The discussion focused on the differences between MK-4 and MK-7 forms of vitamin K2, highlighting that MK-4 has been clinically proven to stop and reverse bone loss, while MK-7 only slows down bone loss and may even increase it. Scott Mulvaney emphasized the importance of consumer education and informed decision-making. John Neustadt discussed the significance of clinical trials and the need for transparency in supplement marketing. They also touched on the benefits of vitamin C, the importance of genetic testing, and the role of dietary supplements in stress management and overall health. Neustadt shared his commitment to reducing fracture risk and improving bone health through evidence-based products and pro bono consulting.

With us today is Dr. John Neustadt, ND, the Founder and President of Nutritional Biochemistry, Inc. (NBI). Dr. Neustadt earned his naturopathic medical degree from Bastyr University where he was awarded the Founder’s Award for academic and clinical excellence. Dr. Neustadt has published more than 100 medical articles, written four health and wellness books and is now a #1 Amazon Best Selling Author in the field of Osteoporosis. His most recent book is, Fracture-Proof Your Bones: A Comprehensive Guide to Osteoporosis. Dr. Neustadt was also an editor of the textbook, Laboratory Evaluations for Integrative and Functional Medicine, which was used across the United States to train and educate physicians on using functional medicine with their patients.

1. Understanding the impacts of stress on your health.
2. Exercise and its' benefits on stress management, along with nutrition and supplementation.
3. Role of Functional Medicine vs the Healthcare System challenges.

Website: NBI – Delivering Health - NBI

Facebook: NBI

YouTube: NBIHealth

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-neustadt-nd-1553576/

Twitter: Dr. John Neustadt (@JohnNeustadt) on X

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08:46 – Chronic stress is absolutely devastating to your health. I mean, even the research has been done with cortisol levels and normal "healthy people", and just the high end of normal, meaning that they were not pathological. They didn't have any disease. They were losing bone mass faster than the people whose cortisol levels were lower. Cortisol also changes the gut microbiome. When it's elevated a lot of the researchers with medications like prednisone, which is basically cortisol on steroids itself, and high doses, but even low doses of short term create osteoporosis and increase fracture risk. But they destroy muscle microfibrils, and it decreases your body's ability to produce collagen. The stress also makes the collagen that is present there even more fragile. So it's just this recipe for this systemic breakdown throughout your body of the connective tissue, not to mention the gut health, and, you know, it's drag on your energy and damage to mitochondria.

13:15 – If recovering from all this chronic stress, if they've got symptoms of adrenal fatigue and or we've tested it and it's shown it, I like to have them exercise just to the point where they are sweating and then to stop. That way you get the cardiovascular benefits. It gets the heart rate up, it boosts the immune system, but it doesn't over stress the the adrenal glands any further.

17:30 – A really insidious effect of cortisol and that chronic stress research has shown it actually shrinks brain size. It decreases the volume of your brain.

37:52 – In Japan, they actually prescribe forest bathing, grounding, i.e. go out into nature. It's prescribed. The other thing is when you're in that stressful situation, back to cortisol in a stressful position in your house, or you're just wound up, it changes the blood flow in your brain. Your prefrontal cortex is for decision making and being able to understand the results of your actions. So if this is comprimised, it will impact your ability to gauge which is going to be the best decision, it decreases the blood flow to that area, and it increases the blood flow to other areas of the brain, where it's more fight or flight, where it's let's get out of here. In fact, research has shown that when people are under stress, they cannot anticipate how the negative consequences of their behaviors, because they just want to escape, and so they make worse decisions.

01:01:20 – Bioavailable, so, what does that mean? It means you can absorb it better, and that's true, MK7 is more bioavailable than MK4, but that doesn't mean that it works better in your body. Does that guarantee a utilization? Not at all. So MK7 and MK4 are both forms of Vitamin k2 but they're different molecules. So you know, as we know, in biochemistry, if you change just one carbon atom or one atom on a molecule, you can get overlapping but you also get very different effects. So I already mentioned, MK4 has been shown to stop and reverse bone loss and maintain bone strength. MK7, in all doses tested, has never been shown to stop bone loss or reverse it, only slow down how fast somebody loses bone?

01:14:00 – On the topic of accurate supplement labeling, I love that topic, and that's we have three versions of that product. Each have the highest dose of MK4 available, 45 milligrams per day, with 2000 I use a vitamin d3 the dose shown in clinical trials to work, and then different amounts of calcium, because not everybody needs the same amount of calcium in a dietary supplement, and a lot of people don't even need calcium as a dietary supplement. So that's got the full dose of calcium, 1000 milligrams per day. Take two servings a day, osteo K minis, which is, I think, a better formula for most women. It has less calcium. It has 400 milligrams per day, right next to that. And the osteo MK4 has no calcium, just the MK4 and vitamin d3 for people who don't need extra calcium.

01:27:00 – Final Words

The reason I started, aside from getting frustrated by not having the supplements that I needed for my patients, where I started focusing on bone health and osteoporosis, is because my mother in law, at the time had osteoporosis. I thought I was doing a good job with her and my patients. I was, you know, helping her with some dietary supplements and nutrition and exercise advice. And her doctor had her on fossamax. Her physician her bone density was going up. So she was happy. Her physician was happy. I was happy. My patient's bone density was going up. So I was happy. Then my mother in law fell, tripped on a throw rug and broke her hip. And I thought to myself, something is wrong with this picture. So I started diving into the research on osteoporosis and bone health, and I was shocked by what I found, that a bone density test only predicts 44% of women with osteoporosis who fracture only 21% of men, and yet that number on that test is almost exclusively what's treated and tracked conventionally. And in fact, when it comes to the Osteoporosis medications, the change in bone density is not even an indicator that that medication is reducing their fracture risk that's well documented in the clinical trials. And so my passion for continuing to research on osteoporosis and bone health, lecture at medical conferences, write my book, create products to help people support their their bone health and their physiology in that way, if I can have an overarching legacy when I'm when I'm gone, my hope is that it will move the needle nationally in terms of how clinically doctors approach this condition, and the entire focus of it changes from just being addressing a number on a test to what can we do to reduce people's fracture risk, because that's the most dangerous thing with this condition, and fracture risk depends largely, mostly on factors other than bone density.

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Scott Mulvaney and Jesse Thomas discuss their backgrounds in wildland firefighting and their transition to health coaching. Jesse emphasizes the importance of sustainable wellness, linking nutrition to environmental impact. They highlight the challenges of maintaining health in high-stress environments like firefighting, advocating for nutrient-dense food and avoiding toxins like glyphosate. Jesse shares her experiences with physical fitness and nutrition, stressing the need for long-term lifestyle changes over short-term diets. They also touch on the broader impact of environmental toxins on human health and the importance of local, sustainable practices in agriculture and wellness. Scott Mulvaney and Speaker 1 discuss their shared passion for health and fitness, emphasizing the importance of nutrition over exercise. They criticize the use of creatine and whey protein, citing their dubious benefits and high costs. Scott shares his experience with the carnivore diet, highlighting the balance between methionine and glycine. They also discuss the mental health challenges faced by firefighters, including addiction and suicide, and the importance of diet and lifestyle interventions. Scott's charity, Field Foundations, provides high-quality boots to firefighters, having donated 11 pairs so far. They both stress the need for personal accountability and sustainable wellness practices. Scott Mulvaney and his guest co-host discussed the importance of personal responsibility in health and wellness. Scott shared a story about a fellow athlete who faced significant challenges but never gave up. The guest emphasized the significance of aligning with one's heart and passions, and the responsibility to oneself and future generations. They highlighted the role of foundational health and wellness in achieving personal and societal goals. Scott concluded by thanking the guest for his contributions to the wellness community and encouraging listeners to prioritize their health and legacy.

Jessie Thomas, owner of Sustainable Wellness, a health consulting business dedicated to helping people achieve better foundational health through nutrition and lifestyle. After 15 years as a wildland firefighter in region 1 and 4, I pivoted and went back to my roots in nutrition to start a health coaching business.

Outside of fire, I have a background in ultra running, nordic and alpine skiing. I am now raising kids with my smokejumper husband, Jake Besmer. Presently, I work with clients 1 on 1 and with groups of people interested in learning more about how nutrition and lifestyle can improve health outcomes and make their experiences as productive as possible.

1. The connection between Nutrition and Environmental impact.
2. Challenges in the Health and Wellness Industry
3. Environmental Toxins, for example, the negative impacts of glyphosate.

• https://www.sustainablewellness.net
• Instagram: @sustainablewellness

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17:40 – So your eyes picked up on that, you had the senses that picked out that. I think that's the thing, is when people are buying crapola from Costco, and they don't really actually know what low quality food is. When you don't have the experience of knowing what real nutrient dense food looks and it feels like your senses are completely turned off.

22:25 – That is an important point when you're in Fire and you've got those store stops that may be in a Walmart, or they may be in some rural Montana, Idaho, Nevada, California, environment where you're subjected to whatever is available. Eggs are always going to be more nutrient dense than Hot Pockets. Eggs are a Superfood.

25:25 – The government just ensures basic food safety. Those are huge food sourcing contracts that go to the lowest bidder, and they can get around all kinds of logical things about bringing in actual good food by quoting food safety laws. So they're like, oh, we've got to make it shelf stable, otherwise people are going to die of food poisoning. What are those chances?

49:44 –  Ben Lynch is the doctor, he's the one that wrote the book Dirty Genes, where I learned about that genetic marker regarding patients with gray hair.

50:35 – I didn't know anything when I started, and then I started to feel like, oh, you know, things could be better. Just before I did fire, I worked for a woman who was a physician. She quit her medical practice to open up a business. She opened up a restaurant that was all about using nutrition to support people with chronic health conditions. Impacting areas like Cancer, it was so amazing. So this is like in the late 90s, when the Institute for Functional Medicine was just starting. So we were really lucky, because we got to work there, and we got to have people come in and talk to us about inflammation, which at the time was as evolved as a conversation could possibly be, and now it's evolving.

01:10:15 – It's a lot of people in fire, I think, you and I have a very dopamine dominant brain type. So they love that high energy input, those kind of big exposures, those big experiences, to keep them up, up, up. Then, once it's over, those inputs are gone and they're left to their own devices. So what do you do in that situation? Will you drink because you're still trying to get so much? I think you know, when you understand certain mechanisms about mental health and how to support it using just diet and lifestyle interventions that are really specific to somebody in that lifestyle, then you really have a different outcome and a different experience. I put on a webinar this last I guess it would be spring, where I was talking about the foundations of mental health, using nutritional considerations for firefighters. It was great. It was well attended.

01:22:10 – Final Words

So emotional regulation, the children just lacked so many things that will just contribute to their ability to function in society. You can see that on them still, like they're going through grades, and they're just like, kids that are just groups of kids that are just fucked up, or total fucking assholes, and it's just like, we did this. We did this. People just went along with it and they were like, it's for public health. So I started arguing with the school board and medical providers in the community, because I'm like, you guys got to show me some information. I mean, doing a simple study on do masks work or not? That's not hard, because there were schools everywhere else that were not wearing masks, and did they have worse outbreaks?

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Baron Hoag, an executive director with over 25 years in chiropractic healthcare, discussed his journey from a sales role to founding One Chiropractic, a nonprofit advocating for the profession. He highlighted the challenges of traditional trade associations, citing a 310% membership growth in Ohio during his tenure. Baron emphasized the importance of chiropractic in enhancing brain-body communication and reducing inflammation. He also shared his subscription-based chiropractic model, offering four visits a month for $160, and his commitment to life balance, operating his clinic 27 hours a week. The conversation also touched on the limitations of allopathic medicine and the need for a more holistic approach to health. The conversation highlights the evolving perspectives on generational differences, particularly in the technology and health sectors. Speaker 1 notes the newer generations' focus on research and data, while Speaker 2 discusses the archaic health practices in the military, emphasizing the need for chiropractic care to address non-combat-related injuries. They also touch on the political landscape and the potential for health reforms under new leadership. Speaker 2 shares personal experiences, including working with the DoD and suing the Australian government, to advocate for chiropractic care. The discussion concludes with a call to embrace passion over fear and think differently to achieve personal freedom.

Bharon Hoag is the Executive Director of OneChiropractic, the most disruptive advocacy organization in chiropractic today, dedicated to challenging the profession's status quo. With over 25 years of experience, Hoag brings a unique perspective shaped by owning and managing clinics, counseling over 1,000 healthcare facilities. As a former Executive Director of the Ohio State Chiropractic Association, he introduced a hands-on approach to association management, driving a 26% membership increase in his first year and transforming the organization’s influence and revenue. Known for his dynamic speaking style, Bharon bridges divides within the chiropractic profession, uniting practitioners with clarity and purpose. Through OneChiropractic, he champions cultural authority, practitioner rights, and public access to chiropractic care, aiming to make it the world’s leading healthcare choice for people in pain. His passion lies in empowering chiropractors and shaping a thriving future for the profession and helping people understand chiropractic is a viable solution for pain.

1. Subscription-Based Chiropractic Business Model
2. Chiropractic Success vs Allopathic Medicine
3. Integrating Chiropractic Care for our Military's Health

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14:50 – Most Chiropractors are the best practitioners, but they're the worst business people, so they struggle, and they never really get ahead. They just kind of exist, paycheck to paycheck and it breaks my heart, because they're amazing. Practitioners, if we could free up some of that stress for them, and a lot, which is part of what my nonprofit does now, is our whole thing is to advocate on behalf of chiropractic, defend the rights of the practicing chiropractor, and then advocate to get better saturation, meaning that, you know, still chiropractic is considered a alternative medicine. It's still considered complementary, where my whole goal is, like, man, if you understood it, it should be the gatekeeper. We should start there, the brain and the body. No matter what other remedy you come up with, if the brain and body aren't communicating, you're it's not going to be as effective as it could be. And so getting chiropractic engaged at the very beginning of a lot of these cases is going to help everybody. It doesn't replace everything. It just puts the patient in the best footing to be able to get the most out of whatever other remedy they may get involved in.

31:05 –So this is why MD's don't know this stuff, because they're taught based on the protocols from the pharmaceutical companies, because that's who's doing the research, and those protocols were built around prescribing some type of medication, and that's why, like, if people understood how horrible statin drugs are, just how horrific they are. So cholesterol, blood pressure, all that stuff that everybody has. When you go in the blood work that MD's are going to get, they are going to look at those types of things, we got to see if it's good cholesterol, bad cholesterol, it's such an easy thing to fix with lifestyle and a little bit of diet changes to get your blood pressure and cholesterol under control. For most people, unless there's an underlying issue, but the allopathic world, because everything's built on a diagnosis, and once there's a diagnosis, there's a protocol, there's no individuality in the allopathic just checking boxes.

41:00 – I try to tell people, One Chiropractic is like Nike, but Nike has a tennis division, a golf division, an apparel division, an equipment division, but it's all one company. So one chiropractic, our mission is to make chiropractic the number one healthcare choice in the world. That's our that's our why statement, okay, then what we do is we create projects that we believe will help us hit that goal. So one of them is defending the rights of practicing chiropractors. There are a number because allopathic medicine does not want us to succeed, like our way of life really does bankrupt the allopathic way of life. We don't want people doing drugs. We don't want people doing surgery. And so we've been under attack. And if you're really a history geek and you want to go back to the 19 late 60s, early 70s, we actually won a case against the American Medical Association where they created a committee to eradicate chiropractic. They called it the Committee on quackery. And we won an antitrust case because they actually put into the code of ethics of MDS that if they referred to or worked with a chiropractor, they could lose their license. And so you had, you had generations of MDS that just hated chiropractic because they were indoctrinated to hate it because of their medical, medical school training. So we've been targeted forever. So like right now in British Columbia, Canada, all of a sudden the regulatory bodies decided chiropractors shouldn't be able to do routine X rays. We've been doing X rays from our inception. Every country licensed chiropractors to do X rays, and they just, out of nowhere, said, Nope, they shouldn't be able to do them anymore.

47:20 – Health is multi dimensional, and if you don't believe it's multi dimensional, then you've been lied to, and you're buying the lie. Chiropractic is not the end all be all, but when it comes to making sure that my brain and my body are properly communicating, so that when I do exercise, when I do eat right, when I do meditate, when I do my massages, when I do any type of medical intervention, at least my body's processing it the right way, right it's it's getting the information the right way, and it's using it. But if I'm so drugged up and my brain doesn't know truth from, you know reality from fiction, because it's being lied to by all the chemistry that's in my body, then how do you ever expect your body to be healthy? This is why, I mean, I remember growing up at one aspirin a day. It's what you do for your heart. Now we have so many gastrointestinal issues, it's unbelievable.

01:05:00 – Final Words

I'm going to answer that in two different ways. Number one, for me personally, my legacy is just to get people to think differently. If you just, if you're just willing to think differently, I don't care where that takes you. Maybe it takes you away from my opinion. I don't care. I just don't want you to believe what someone else told you to believe. I want you to believe something because you did the work and you gathered the information you needed to do it. I Some of my best friends are on the other side of the political spectrum, but I love them because it's just the way they view the world. It's not that they're buying into someone else's BS. And so we don't have to agree. I can celebrate our differences and respect you because of your commitment and your diligence, even if it's different than mine, because I think our world needs difference of opinion in order to get to a true, raw, appropriate product, anything untested, anything unchallenged, will never be the best ever, ever. That's why we're at a four minute mile because someone thought they could beat the five minute mile, and someone we're at a five minute mile because someone said they could beat a six minute mile. Beat a six minute mile, right? Like nothing ever is better, unless there's some challenge or contrast to it. And so I just my personal legacy. I hope, even though my niche is chiropractic, if you hear me, and for some reason, God puts things in a and we cross paths. Think differently. Just think differently, challenge what you've been told, and come up with your own understanding.

My the second way that I'm going to answer that question is, guys, I'm so blessed and happy because I found something I was passionate about, and my passion is stronger than my fear, and so it allows me to take steps forward. I just just at an event this weekend, speaking to a group of chiropractors and team members. And, you know, I just my talk went off the rails because I just something was on my heart, and I just followed it. And it was pretty much that I was looking in the audience. I saw so many people that just were not happy. They just weren't happy with where they were in life, what they were doing. You know, they love their job, they love their chiropractor. It's better than, you know, working in the factory or whatever. But they just, you could just see it in them. They weren't exuding this passion for life, and it just broke my heart. I'm like, you know, my days are stressful. I definitely have crappy days. Everything brings that with it, but I am genuinely blown away, happy and blessed to do what I get to do. And you know, there's, there's a quote that they have for fear, that fear is a figment of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. Danger is real, but fear is a choice, and I really weighed on that with them. And I'm like, I'm just asking you to choose to be passionate about something more than you fear it. And if we can find and it doesn't matter what it is, if it's kids, if it's music, if it's sports, if it's healthcare, if it's nutrition, if it's exercise, whatever it is, get passionate about something in your life, and that passion will outweigh the fear that's limiting you from chasing it, whatever that is, chase it because you were put on this earth to make to be a difference maker, to be a change agent. You just have to believe it and find something that you're excited enough about to take those first few steps that seem so scary, but. Passion is going to override that fear. So that's my challenge. That's my legacy message to everyone, find something you're so unbelievably passionate about so it gives you the confidence to take those steps to go towards it.

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Scott introduces us to Seth Jones, CEO of Hygia Living Corp, to discuss the growing issue of toxicity in homes and businesses. Seth highlights that 66 million homes and 170 million people in the U.S. are affected by ongoing water damage and mold, leading to mycotoxin production. He shares his personal experience with building-related illness in Los Angeles and introduces Hygia products: a biodegradable cleaner for mycotoxins, a chlorine dioxide gas for decontamination, and an endurance coating to prevent mold growth on surfaces. Seth emphasizes the importance of personal accountability in creating healthier living environments.

Seth Jones is the CEO of Hygia Living Corp., where he and his team developed Superstratum, the first patent-pending process to remove mycotoxins from homes. His work has focused on understanding the hidden causes of Building-Related Illness (BRI) and developing products and solutions to address these issues. Before founding Hygia Living, Seth spent 15 years as an international songwriter, producer, and DJ. However, a personal experience with BRI changed everything, leading to the creation of Superstratum. Now, Seth and Hygia Living are on a mission to heal the estimated 66 million homes in the U.S. that create toxic conditions leading to BRI. With 170 million people currently living in these homes, the Hygia Living mission to heal our homes has never been more important. Seth believes that our health can only rise to the level of our environment and that a pure, toxin-free environment is essential for the healing of the body, mind, and soul. 

1. Current statistics: 66 million homes and 170 million people affected by ongoing water damage issues.
2. 47-48% of homes and office buildings in the US have ongoing water damage issues.
3. The role of environmental toxins in chronic illness and the need for lifestyle changes to improve health.

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24:40 – Disinfectants like our products are specifically designed as oxidizers to destroy other chemical contaminants. Our Cleaners are specifically designed for Mycotoxins, and we've done research as well as published a white paper from that hard work. Let's not forget the other contaminants like the VOCs aka Voltaile Organic Compounds, that are present in our environments. That new construction smell, off-gassing from paints, carpets, caulks, sealants and much more are different.

29:25 – The chemist who developed it, he had worked at Sherwin Williams for many, many years in non-toxic craft paints and things. So he had a very unique chemistry knowledge. He moved to the mountains up in Georgia, and started getting algae growing on the side of his house. So he developed a long term mold resistant coating that would stick to vinyl and give him many years of resistance performance,

40:00 – Today, a lot of kids are growing up in really toxic environments. It's affecting their cognitive development while impacting their learning disabilities. These mycotoxins have been linked to childhood autism as well. It was a blessing to be able to grow up and have access to outside and clean air.

54:15 – Final Words

Superstratum is about solving the mold mycotoxin problem, but Hygia Living is really about that legacy mission. How do we live in our environments in the right way, so that it creates the reality of positive results for our health, the reality of our environment? We're all chronically ill, and we're all out of whack with that, and there are so many things that go into that. It's not just, here's your pill, swallow it with water. No, YOU have to take personal accountability and responsibility, and you have to move into action, and you have to be committed, and you have to be devoted.

Healing is not complicated, but it's not easy, and that applies to healing the environment as well. So I always like to just encourage people to know when they start hearing these messages, it's like these alarm bells are going off because they know the problem and they don't want to face it. So that's the first thing, is just encourage people to do that. Then, on a more practical basis, what I like to tell people, lot of times people hear this and they get confused and say, well, where do I even start? How do I know? What do I do?

We talked about some of the testing, what I'd like to tell people is, it's really simple. When you travel and you go on vacation, or you leave your home for two to three days, does your energy come back? Does your brain fog go away? Does your skin clear up? Do your gut issues get a little bit better? Does your autoimmune disease not flare up as much? Then, when you go home again, did those things return? That means, almost certainly, that there's something in the building that is contributing to that disease. Now, what it is from that point you can begin the journey. Sometimes it doesn't matter, because the steps to fix that environment are the same, but that is the easiest thing that I like to tell people. It's all about getting to that AHA moment and react to yourself with wait a minute, why have I been on this health journey for six years? Why can none of my doctors seem to get me better? Why do I keep taking the same medications and I'm not getting better? Sometimes that's all it takes, and that will start the train for people to then move into action and heal their environment. That is the first step to getting your health back. It is all about getting to and living in that clean and healthy environment.

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Your host Scott Mulvaney and Dr. Todd Cevene discuss the benefits of natural weight loss approaches over pharmaceutical solutions. Dr. Cevene, who has helped over 75,000 people and has 74 providers in 38 states, emphasizes the importance of addressing metabolic issues and insulin resistance. He highlights the success of his program, which averages 32+ pounds and 20+ inches of weight loss in 90 days, without exercise. They also touch on the limitations of traditional healthcare, the role of personal accountability, and the potential of compounding pharmacies. Dr. Sabine advocates for a holistic approach to health, focusing on diet and lifestyle changes. Todd Cevene emphasizes that effective health strategies, such as weight loss and blood sugar management, must be consistently applied and monitored for results. He stresses the importance of setting a good example for children, as they learn more from observing actions than from words. Scott agrees, noting the influence of parents' behaviors on their children's habits. They both advocate for passing on positive health knowledge to future generations.

Our guest today is revolutionizing the weight loss industry with a natural approach that's helped over 75,000 people transform their lives. Dr. Todd Cevene pioneered a breakthrough metabolic optimization system that helps people lose weight without exercise, strict diets, or medications. His system is now used by over 140 healthcare providers nationwide and has led to more than 2 million pounds lost naturally and sustainably.

1. Natural healthy approaches vs "Pharmaceutical Band-Aids".
2. Understanding Peptides vs GLP-1 Medications.
3. The role of Personal Accountability in our Health.

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05:00 – When you see commercials for semi glutides or GLP-1's, they're compounded, the feds have made those against the law out there and now illegal to compound, beginning next month, so you use a name brand prescription. The reason for that is because, when you're doing the peptides, they aren't regulated, so you don't know. It could be a guy in a bathtub in China with his cat, and they're making them, and you're pumping that into your body hoping it's going to make a difference.

28:40 – So without sounding too sarcastic with it, so in that same vein, if you say people want to be healthy, people that we talked about asking like the GLP compound of drugs, or the GLP weight loss drugs, people healthy will also start eating healthy. If you're taking those medications and you're just eating one piece of pizza instead of three, that's not help.

31:20 – The metabolic ones, insulin, blood sugars, leptin, ghrelinn, adeno, pectin, etc. So when you start to control those metabolically, you start to burn more unhealthy fat than sugar, which is what people try to control on the Keto Diet, right? The Keto Diet is not bad as long as you can sustain it. But the average person can't sustain it, unlike you'd mentioned, you're able to do that. The average person can't necessarily sustain that. So the way you keep weight off forever is you find a way for that particular patient so they can have the freedom to eat what they want, "within reason", and still lose weight. So psychologically, if you feel like you're not dieting and you're losing inches of fat and weight, we're on the home stretch.

52:55 – I was looking at again for a panel of like, 20 med spas that are starting this, and they're getting rid of GLP1's, they're going for a program. The average patient loses 32.8 pounds. This is within a 90 day mark, and they lose up to 20.2 inches within 60 days. The average person loses two clothing sizes, or 10% of your body weight in 60 days is a very safe bet, like bet your house with a kid in it and take it to the bank.

58:45 – Final Words

The impact of children seeing mothers inject weight loss drugs to lose weight versus making healthy choices comes to them. Our own girls have told us over and over and over again, I can't believe how bad everybody else eats, or I went to my friend's house and the whole family is literally sitting around consuming bags of chips, and I couldn't believe it. There wasn't fruit, there wasn't anything like natural veggies with the meal. They're just astonished that not everybody does that, who needs that. So it's, again, it was kind of an aha moment to me that you're impacting families, and that how far that goes with kids and everything else as well. For all the women out there that have children or men that have children, that can become more aware, this is what they see and what they learn.

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