Bonus: Liza reads for piece & talks Bernie & more! https://www.patreon.com/posts/22644724

Liza Featherstone talks to me and Gabe about focus groups and how they're ruining politics. We discuss her latest book "Divining Desire: the Culture of Consultation," her latest piece in The Baffler "Sorry to Bother You," and the midterms. Plus I report back from Alexandria Ocasio Cortez's victory party. Stand by for our bonus in which we talk about Bernie Sanders' controversial comments, communist vaginas, and that time Gabe was in a focus group. Also, Liza reads part of her piece!