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So as my old desk was falling apart, it was time to buy a new desk and I wanted to get a standing desk as I now work from home. I use to stand for 8 hours a day as an instructor but now I sit on my butt all day and something needed to change. 

What Standing Desk Did I Buy

I bought the Smart Desk 2 from Autonomous.ai and they start at $299, I went for the $399 model as it goes a little higher, and had a little bigger desktop. It took a few hours to put together (not too hard) and it works as expected. 

The Surprises

I needed a new desk as everytime I pulled out the drawers of the desk, they would fall apart. This desk has no drawers. No big deal, I'll just buy a small cabinet. I have a filing cabinet, I wanted more of a few things with doors to hide junk behind. I found this four shelf cabinet for $36

Then I noticed that when I raise my desk, my mouse almost fell off, and I almost pulled my monitor off the desk. I needed extension cables. So I got a USB extension cable for my Mouse for $6. and an extended VGA cable for my monitor

Then as my feet were killing me, I needed a standing pad for $60 some of these pads go up to $120 (that are easier to move around)

The videos of many standing desks show them with iMacs or Laptops. Neither one of these computers have cables. Keep this in mind.

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I just watched That Sugar Film on Amazon. (prime for free, but you can rent it), and I was amazed. In it, the filmmaker went on a diet that included 40 teaspoons of sugar per day (this is what people eating "healthy" diets get). Here are some fun stats.

He gained 18 lbs

HIs developed "Fatty Liver Disease"

He added 4 inches of visceral fat around his waste

Meanwhile, he was eating the SAME AMOUNT OF CALORIES then before he started experimenting. So it's NOT just calories in -calories out. It's what is making up your calories.

Also, sugar sends your brain on a high followed by a crash. So we will our kids full of cereal and fruit juice and send them off the school and wonder why they can't concentrate.

Check it out on Amazon 

You can get sugar free recipes at their website www.thatsugarfilm.com (if you're in Australia, there is also an app for your phone).

If you want to know how many teaspoons of sugar are in something, divide the number of grams by 4. So if something has 16 grams of sugar, that is four teaspoons.

It was an eye-opening movie, done in an educational and entertaining way.

Almost Caught My Kitchen on Fire

I spoke about how I bought an Air Fryer on a previous episode and I LOVED it. The last few times it started to smoke a bit. I always clean the part that you cook in and wipe down the bottom on the inside. Well, after setting off the smoke alarms in my apartment, I busted out the manual and I see where I need to wipe down the whole thing on the inside (which means you have to let it cool down, which means its kind of a pain in the butt). So if you get one, keep it clean. 

This is So Dumb, and Yet so Cool - A Baby Ice Machine

 know you can buy 2 ice cube trays for $6 on Amazon. So when you start talking about spending $90-$159 for a baby refrigerator that just makes ice, that is a lot of ice cube trays. I bought mine at Walmart and I'm not sure why (cause breaking ice out of trays was not that tough) but I love it. I fill it up with water in the morning and I have cubes the rest of the day. I like my water cold, so this has been great.  

But there was a problem

My water bottle was a sweaty mess. My cork coaster was soaked through. Solution? a cup within a cup. You can get a set of Six for $22. This is awesome. The water stays super cold, and I don't have a single drop of sweat on the outside of my cup. So I don't have to worry about soaking my coaster (I still use one just in case). 

The end result is I'm drinking a ton of super cold water on some super hot summer days here in Ohio. 

Check out the Igloo Portable Ice Macker

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New Logical Losers Support Group

People have been asking how they can support the group, and I've been wanting to create a facebook group, so I've put the two together. If you go to www.logicallosers.com this will be our new community to create a safe place to talk, support, and inspire each other. If you get at least $1 worth of value from the podcast, I urge you to sign up.

Why is there a fee? Because we are talking health, fitness, etc, everybody and their brother have a product or service to tell. I believe we may be talking about services and such, but I don't want "Coach Steve" or  " Fitness Franny" coming in and spamming us. There are different rewards, and again, this is all optional.

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Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It - Reviewed

This is a book written by  Gary Taubes, and he takes on a very controversial subject and that is that Eating less and moving more is bad advice. WHAT? Well, he spends the better part of the first ten chapters going over why, and by chapter two I was like "OK, SERIOUSLY, MOVE ON." But I had to suffer through many chapters for him to get to what we are supposed to do. So I'm going to sum it up.

Cut down carbohydrate, and cut down on Sugar. (more or less adopt a paleo diet). As he puts it,

Cut back on Carbs.

"On this diet, no sugars (simple carbohydrates) and no starches (complex carbohydrates) are eaten. The only carbohydrates encouraged are the nutritionally dense, fiber-rich vegetables listed. Sugars are simple carbohydrates. Avoid these kinds of foods: white sugar, brown sugar, honey, maple syrup, molasses, corn syrup, beer (contains barley malt), milk (contains lactose), flavored yogurts, fruit juice, and fruit. Starches are complex carbohydrates. Avoid these kinds of foods: grains (even “whole” grains), rice, cereals, flour, cornstarch, breads, pastas, muffins, bagels, crackers, and “starchy” vegetables such as slow-cooked beans (pinto, lima, black beans), carrots, parsnips, corn, peas, potatoes, French fries, potato chips"

Do Not Eat

You should completely cut out sugar, bread, cereal, flour containing items, fruits, juices, honey, whole or skimmed milk, yogurt, canned soups, dairy substitutes, ketchup, sweet condiments and relishes. Avoid these common mistakes: Beware of “fat-free” or “lite” diet products, and foods containing “hidden” sugars and starches (such as coleslaw or sugarfree cookies and cakes). Check the labels of liquid medications, cough syrups, cough drops, and other over-the-counter medications that may contain sugar. Avoid products that are labeled “Great for Low-Carb Diets!”

So Why Do I Get Fat?

Gary Taubes wrote this book for doctors I believe, but in a nutshell, when we each these items our blood sugar goes up. This then makes our Insulin go up. The release of fatty acids from fat cells, "Requires only the negative stimulus of insulin deficiency" - Rosalyn Yalow, Solomon Merson, 1965 

Her explains this in this video (which is more or less the book in 56 minutes)

He Does Mention the GI

The glycemic index is a measure of how quickly food raises our blood sugar. And the scale of the glycemic index goes from 0 all the way up to 100.
Foods with a higher glycemic index are more readily absorbed in our body and raise our blood sugar more. A lower glycemic index doesn't affect our blood sugar as much.
The glycemic index is an imperfect system because everyone's body responds a little bit different. It also doesn't consider how much food we eat. But it is overall a useful tool to help keep our blood sugar steady and eating more nutritious foods.
Foods that have a low glycemic index typically have more fiber and less sugar, but it's important to know that low glycemic index food doesn't necessarily mean that it's healthy. After all, lard has a very low glycemic index.

According to Web MD

The smaller the number, the less impact the food has on your blood sugar.

55 or less = Low (good)
56- 69 = Medium
70 or higher = High (bad)

Here is a list of resources that list foods and their GI

Rated by FI from Harvard

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/whattoeat/a/glycemicindlist.htm

http://www.livestrong.com/glycemic-index-food-list/

http://www.lifetimefatloss.com/glycemic-index-list-of-foods.html

Red Rock Apps: Running For Weight Loss App

What is it: A unique program of interval training especially for weight loss. A ready-made 2-month training plan with 3 workout days a week.

Good: Easy to use, tracks weight, water (and prompts you to drink more), keeps your stats of your exercising, and ties in with Fitbit.

Cons: EVERY TIME you touch this app you are prompted to update to their paid ($10/month) plan. So bring your patience. When the voice tells you that you are half way, when the announcement is over, the music does not return to its regular volume (in my case Spotify).

Conclusion: I can handle press the X every five minutes. It's easy to use, and when I leave the gym I'm sweating. I'm keeping it for now and considering upgrading to their pro plan.

 

How Do I Cancel a Subscription on an Apple Device?

I recently wanted to cancel a subscription for one app I was using, and once you know where to look it is not that hard. For me, I started looking at my account on iTunes, and that is the wrong place. Here is how you cancel an Apple subscription:

1. Access Settings in the home of your device;
2. Scroll down and tap iTunes Store and AppStore;
3. Tap your e-mail and Apple ID, View Apple ID and enter your password;
4. Now, tap Subscription - Manage and select PlayKids;
5. Turn off the auto-renewal option and tap Done.

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Keep Your Progress in Front Of You

Sometimes when we think about how far we need to go, it can be overwhelming. Here are some visual tools that you can use to keep you motivated

Two Jars: One marked pounds to go, and the other marked pounds destroyed

Clothes Pins and String - the Same concept with one pin representing a pound. Two strings labeled pounds to go and pounds destroyed.

Monthly Calendar: At the end of each month, write down how much weight you lose.

Tip Jar: You can tip yourself money for things you do correctly or milestones such as:
$10 for every pound lost
$1 for every workout that had you feeling both so good, and so tired (you know what I'm talking about)
.50 for trying a healthy recipe
$1 for preparing food in advance
$1 for a new activity or workout
$2 for healthy choices when out with friends
.5o for bringing a workout friend with you
.50 for working out when you really didn't' want to or the weather was bad, etc.

Journal

By writing down your thoughts it can release stress, and you can see where you started, and how far you've come and often spot things that might've trigger negative activity. I love Penzu.com

Nutrionix Lets You Track Food Fast, and Even With Voice Command

How would you like to tell Alex what you had for breakfast and have her log your food. The way you do this is through Nutritionix. The app is free and hosts a HUGE database of foods restaurants, and you can even add your own food (or combinations of food if you eat certain foods together). The app alone makes it super easy to enter the food you are eating and give you a total of the calories, and a glimpse into the nutrition. You can put in your goal for calories and it turns red or green depending on your current stats.

When you enable the Nutritionix skill, I can simply say,

Alexa, tell food tracker to log a glass of milk and she will add it to your Nutritionix. I tried it and sure enough, there was my glass of milk in my account. I haven't tested it much since then as I just found it, but this could make tracking your food intake super easy. 

If you just want to use it for advice, you can ask, "Ask food tracker how many calories are in 2 eggs and 3 slices of bacon" or  "Ask food tracker How many carbs are in a 3 oz of pizza"

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The proportion of American adults who were either overweight or obese has been growing steadily for decades, rising from about 53% a generation ago to roughly 66% more recently.

But the share of these adults who had gone on a diet dropped during the same period, researchers reported in the Journal of the American Medical Assn.

Basically Fat is the new normal. If we are all fat, we don't stand out. If we mention to someone that their size is unhealthy we are no "Fat Shaming."

In a nutshell, Americans are giving up hope. When you lose hope, you die. Why do I say this?

In the 1950s, they did a  brutal experiment drowning rats. It was done by a Johns Hopkins professor Curt Richter. The experiment included domesticated and wild rats. He first took a dozen domesticated rats, put them into jars half filled with water, and watched them drown. The idea was to measure the amount of time they swam before they gave up and went under. The first rat, Richter noted, swam around excitedly on the surface for a very short time, then dove to the bottom, where it began to swim around, nosing its way along the glass wall. It died two minutes later.

Two more of the 12 domesticated rats died in much the same way. But, interestingly, the nine remaining rats did not succumb nearly so readily; they swam for days before they eventually gave up and died.

Now came the wild rats, renowned for their swimming ability. The ones Richter used had been recently trapped and were fierce and aggressive. One by one, he dropped them into the water. And one by one, they surprised him: Within minutes of entering the water, all 34 died

Richter then tweaked the experiment: He took other, similar rats, and put them in the jar. Just before they were expected to die, however, he picked them up, held them a little while, and then put them back in the water. “In this way,” he wrote, “the rats quickly learn that the situation is not actually hopeless.”

After elimination of hopelessness,” wrote Richter, “the rats do not die.”

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Here is a Great Article in Find Hope When There is None

In the article, it points out

Consider all the amazing things you have done. All the hardships you've worked through

Surround yourself with optimism

Allow inspiration in (read a book, listen to music)

Spend time in Nature it's remarkable, and so are you.

Be courageous: Cultivating hope requires courage to take that first step forward. Give yourself the chance to find your way through your challenges. Take that first step and then the next. You will soon be on the other side and ready to tackle your next challenge.

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Sync Solver

This app saves the day in some cases when your two apps don't talk to each other

http://syncsolver.com/

Fitbit to health, Health to CSV. Health to Fitbit, and many combinations of all of the above. Here is a video. 

Women Are Drinking More

Binge drinking (defined as imbibing four or more drinks within two hours) increased by 3.7% annually among older women, but held steady among older men.

• In a single decade — from 2002 to 2012 — the proportion of women who drank rose from 44.9% to 48.3%, while the proportion of male drinkers fell from 57.4% to 56.1%.
• A survey conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) between 2011 and 2013 indicated that 53.6% of women ages 18 to 44 were drinking, and 18.2% were binge drinking. The CDC followed up with an alert that three million US women were at risk of increasing the likelihood of sudden infant death syndrome and fetal alcohol spectrum disorders.
• According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA), the gender gap has closed among teens, with about 20% of 17-year-olds drinking regularly and 13% binge drinking.

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Make Your Bed: Little Things That Can Change Your Life...And Maybe the World

The author of this book did a commencement speech and he points out how doing the little things can help you with a better attitude, but he also points out that life is not always fair. You can get a glimpse of this book in this commencement speech https://youtu.be/pxBQLFLei70

He points out that you are going to fail, and fail often, but if you don't quit you still have a chance of winning. 

Why I Was Gaining Weight

For me, weight loss is about food. Control your food, and you control your weight. Well, I used to plan out my meals ahead of time and as I mentioned last week, even if everything in your house is "healthy" you can still eat too much. Well, I use the Fitbit app. I'm also playing with the fooducate app. Both of these allow you to put in your food and your activity. The Fitbit takes in the steps you have for the day, and adds up the calories burned. This is good and bad.

The good thing is it's easy. It happens automatically.

The bad news is now if you have more than usual steps it shows you that you can eat more calories (and I was). 

If the calories it says you are burning is inaccurate, then you have a problem. 

So Im taking the extra step to go in and look at the number of calories IN, instead of the net calories (calories in and then subtract a number of calories burned). 

From the Mailbag

From Laura:

Dave
I love your podcast!
I look forward to it very week. Keep up the great work. Stay honest. Stay true to yourself.
You are such an inspiration for me.

My current struggle is trying to cut out the C-R-A-P that has found its way back into my daily life.
I lost 50 pounds (from 200-yikes! down to a sleek150-size 8)
by cutting out all the processed, nutrition-less, Franken foods.

Yep just like you, I was focused on hydration, real food (mainly meat & vegetables), sleep and fitness.
I lost weight by having as many four-star days as possible. It took 9 months but I’ve kept it off since 2011.

Well almost. Truthfully, I’m bouncing around 157 now. I’m writing you because I’ve got to nip this in the bud. I look good. I feel good. I can still wear the same clothes, but everything is just a little too snug.

I’m reeling it in right here, right now. No cheats. No slips. No skipping exercise. For 30 days.
30 consecutive 4-star days should get me back down to 150 pounds and back on track to a lifetime of clean eating.

Come on Dave – we can do this!!

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Today I explain why my weight has gone up.

1. If you buy cookies, you eat cookies

2. Almonds are not filling, and when you cover them in chocolate, smoke flavoring, etc they might as well be called CANDY. 

3. I'm not drinking as much water

4. I'm not exercising as much

5. I got sick, and just was drained. 

6. I quit taking supplements as they cost me hundreds of dollars a month

So I'm back to being as normal as I'm gonna get at this point. I now have a new fight. Losing weight without supplements. 

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Air Fryer Are the "NEW" Thing, but Are They Really Healthy?

This is what we hear about Air Fryers:

• Less chance of a grease fire with no grease
• Less chance of getting burned by popping grease when there is no grease
• Much less clean up, and no worries about dumping old grease.
• Air fryers produce food that has the same crispy outside that standard fryers produce, without the unhealthy additives.
•  Air fryers can reduce up to eighty percent of the fat content of foods typically cooked in hot oil.

So after getting sucked into the Power Air Fryer XL Informercial, I went and bought one. There isn't much to it, and I through 8 chicken thighs into the basket, put on some seasonings, 20 minutes later, presto out popped crispy fried chicken that tasted awesome. There is also a deluxe version that comes with a Baking insert, Pizza Pan, and Cooking Tongs. 

In a nutshell, it a conventional oven with a built-in fan that allows your to Roast, Air Fry, Bake, Steam, Sauté, and Grill your favorite food. There is an exhaust fan, so it will not heat up your house as much as a traditional oven (and it only takes 3 minutes to warm up) but it does send hot out the back (and sucks new air in the front).

The cleanup was beyond easy (I love it when non-stick stuff comes out and there is nothing stuck to it. I bought a new Foreman grill to it, and grill it's never really been nonstick. Easy to clean, sure, but nonstick, um, yeah, no. 

I do appreciate the removal of grease popping and landing on me. As a child (five years old) my sister was cooking bacon, and accidentally hit the handle on the pan, and an entire pan of hot bacon grease landed on my leg leaving me with giant scar for many years. To this day, I'm still a little squeamish around hot grease. Now that worry is gone. 

Things to Watch Out For

There is a piece of cardboard in the bottom pan, and while I got off all the tape and wrapping, I missed that one. 

There is a lot of documentation about this. The inner bucket is controlled by a button. If you click that button the bottom pan (potentially full of hot grease) is released from the top bucket. So if you do not have this sitting on something, when you click that button you could drop the hot pan and end up throwing hot grease everywhere. Read the directions as these items get hot. Have an oven mitt around to handle this stuff.

If You're Getting It To Eat Healthy Remember This About Air Fryers

Pie is still pie, and doughnuts are still doughnuts. Likewise, fries are still giant mounds of carbs with or without fries (but I do plan on making some sweet potato fries in this thing)

Just because it uses less or no oil, it's not a miracle worker. It does not turn cupcakes into super food. 

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My Bland Soup Experiment

Today I talk about how I went to purchased a 2 Quart Slow Cooker ($8) and was amazed at how much SALT is in the "ready made" seasoning mixes for slow cookers. So I decided to make my own. I purchased some stew meat, a bag of frozen mixed vegetables, and some no sodium beef broth (that still have 79 mg of salt). I browned the meat, and through everything together and went to visit my brother. I came home and everything was done, but it was pretty bland. The good new is I could add salt to taste instead of having 900 mg of salt that I didn't ask for. 

It turns out that 2000 mg of salt is a teaspoon. The 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend an upper limit for sodium consumption of 2,300 milligrams of sodium per day for adults. If you are African American, age 51 or older or have high blood pressure, diabetes or chronic disease, that recommendation is lowered to 1,500 milligrams per day.

The good news is I tried something new. I learned some insights, and thanks to the internet I'm sure there are plenty of health slow cooker recipes for me to try me to try. I do love set it and forget it cooking (with very little clean up as well). 

Probiotics - Do We Need These?

My answer is I don't know. I get that your "Gut" has enzymes that help keep us healthy, and some of our food kills the good enzymes. In looking at some Probiotic Complex, there was a video that states that a study in england more or less dismissed them as necessary unless you have diarrhea or have IBS.

Fooducate - Not Only Says a Food is Bad, but WHY

I've used other apps to help share some insights into what foods are good and which ones are bad, but they were totally free. I am always worried they are being paid by companies to spotlight their food as a healthy choice. Fooducate has additional "pro" versions so you don't have to about that (their prices are very reasonable for bonus features, and their free features are great).

I love that they tell you why something is getting a less than steller grade. I love in some cases, they throw in some good old honest SNARKINESS. It's pretty entertaining. 

One of my favorite features is you can log your food (including the ability to scan a bar code - I love that) your water, sleep, and activity and it gives you a grade for the day.

I would love to see it integrate with fitbit so I wouldn't have to log my information twice. 

Check it at out at fooducate.com (available for both iOs and Android). The food tracking is only in the app, you can do food lookup on their website. 

 

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You mentioned how “instant oatmeal” is not the same as it was ten years ago. I like oatmeal, and eat it most weekdays. I make it in a small “Crock Pot” that is intended for things like dip, fondue, etc. I think it’s called the “Little Dipper” ($14.95)– capacity of 16 oz. I use McCann’s Steel Cut Oats, put in a 1/4 cup, and then add 10 oz of water. Plug it in when I go to bed, and in the morning it is perfectly done. Stir, add a little milk, or whatever you prefer as “milk” and you are ready! I also drink OJ in the morning, but I “cut it” 50/50 with non-sodium seltzer. BTW, the McCann’s comes in a can and retails for about 5.99 for 20 servings, so it’s economical too. -Carol

I've been enjoying the podcast for quite some time now. Thanks for keeping at it!  And congratulations on your 30lb loss last year. That's awesome!

Question for you - I know that you have mentioned some weight loss challenge apps in the past. Some co-workers want to do a weight loss challenge but they want to raise money for a charity that we support. Do you have any recommendations on an app that they could use to do that? I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks! Longtime fan, Nikki in SoCal Weight Loss Challenges - Websites and Resources

I haven't talked about this in a while, and I went and look at and some of the resources of the past have gone away (well, that's the internet, and it's also hard to stay in business when you charge 0.00) Here are a couple that seem up to date My Weight Loss Challenge Spreadsheet. If you just need a spreadsheet where all the math is done for you, here it is.

Diet Bet

Dietbet.com is one of the top sites. It allows you to have teams, and they have kickstarters (4% weight loss), Challenges (for most % of body weight), and they have bets for those who want to maintain. Check it out at dietbet.com

Heathwage

Healthwage has got a lot of press coverage that just pays you to lose weight. You put in how much you want to lose, how long you want to lost it, and it calculates a prize. For me I told it I wanted to lose 15 pounds of 6 months. It said I would need to lose 20 and I would earn $133 (I would have put in 120 which is 11% return). I am at a weight that I don't think I could get that low. (I lost 30 lbs last year).

Meltodwn Challenge

I really liked this one, and started  challenge. IT STARTS TODAY so get in on this now! This has an app, and you can easily setup a group, or if you want have it go to charity, or have some of it go to the person running it (which we did in my case to pay for it).

Stickk

Stickk.com is an interesting twist meant for ANY resolution. You pick a referee to keep you accountable. You can earn money, or motivate yourself by having your money go to something you hate. Check it out at stickk.com

Thintopia and Fatbet

Both of these sites are still around. They help people login and track their weight and you see the progress. With Dietbet, Healthwage, and Stickk, there is some sort of anti-cheat involved (videos, pictures, etc) These two sites (both free) operate on the honor system. Fatbet is at fatbet.net and Thintopia is Thintopia.com

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