This is episode 25 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. This is the final part of our interview with Dr Timothy Pawl(University of St Thomas)in which we(Stephanie Nicole Nordby and Jonathan Rutledge) discuss various things related to 3 extensions to his account of conciliar Christology, including(i) multiple incarnations and the possibility of extra-terrestrial intelligence,(ii) Christ's descent into Hell, and (iii) the extent of Christ's human nature's knowledge.

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

1. Tim Pawl - https://timpawl.wordpress.com/

2. Tim Pawl (Defending Conciliar Christology @ the Classical Theism Podcast) - http://www.classicaltheism.com/pawl/?fbclid=IwAR3owJeqGzvW_sPdxzQOb-q4r_YV_-_HeVvzCayrs6E4cLOtguE6BR5eInw\

3. Up to date research - https://philpeople.org/profiles/tim-pawl

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage at logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the Institute at blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb…Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 24 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. This is the second part of our interview with Dr Timothy Pawl(University of St Thomas)in which we(Stephanie Nicole Nordby and Jonathan Rutledge) discuss various things related to 3 extensions to his account of conciliar Christology, including(i) multiple incarnations and the possibility of extra-terrestrial intelligence,(ii) Christ's descent into Hell, and (iii) the extent of Christ's human nature's knowledge. Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

0:46 - What motivates you to ask whether or not there could be multiple incarnations?

1:46 - Distinguishing actuality from possibility

3:29 - Arrival, the movie, and what might motivate the need for multiple incarnations

7:56 - On Christ's Descent into Hell

8:14 - Where or what is Hell according to the fathers?

9:11 - Could Christ's rational soul have been united to a dead body? (understanding Thomistic metaphysics)

10:39 - Why care about Christ's supposed descent into Hell?

12:05 - Scripture and the Descent (1 Enoch & 1 Peter 3:18-21)

13:00 - How much did the human nature of Jesus know?

15:35 - What Church Fathers do with "Nobody knows the day or the hour passages"

16:40 - What's the human Jesus' mental life like on this extension?

18:00 - Understanding where the limits should be for Christ's human nature.

18:56 - Are these extensions consistent with the conciliar deposit? Why should we care?

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

1. Tim Pawl - https://timpawl.wordpress.com/

2. Tim Pawl (Defending Conciliar Christology @ the Classical Theism Podcast) - http://www.classicaltheism.com/pawl/?fbclid=IwAR3owJeqGzvW_sPdxzQOb-q4r_YV_-_HeVvzCayrs6E4cLOtguE6BR5eInw\

3. Up to date research - https://philpeople.org/profiles/tim-pawl

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage at logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the Institute at blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb…Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 23 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. This is the first part of our interview with Dr Timothy Pawl(University of St Thomas)in which we(Stephanie Nicole Nordby and Jonathan Rutledge) discuss...(i) how he got involved in philosophy, theology, and Christology, (ii) the basic understanding behind conciliar Christology, and (iii) how to think about the possibility that God might have become incarnate more than once. Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

1:25 - Dr Pawl's academic background

3:27 - A brief discussion of religious realism and anti-realism

4:32 - How Dr Pawl developed an interest in Christology

7:41 - Why philosophers should care about conciliar Christology

8:56 - Why should a broadly ecumenical audience care about conciliar Christology?

10:45 - How should we think about the fundamental metaphysical problem of Christology?

13:14 - What's a supposit vs. a nature vs. a person?

15:02 - Points of Thomistic departure from Aristotelian metaphysics

16:36 - Is Jesus a human person?

18:49 - Five extensions to conciliar Christology

21:17 - Is it possible for there to be multiple incarnations?

23:05 - Are some natures unredeemable?

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

1. Tim Pawl - https://timpawl.wordpress.com/

2. Tim Pawl (Defending Conciliar Christology @ the Classical Theism Podcast) - http://www.classicaltheism.com/pawl/?fbclid=IwAR3owJeqGzvW_sPdxzQOb-q4r_YV_-_HeVvzCayrs6E4cLOtguE6BR5eInw\

3. Up to date research - https://philpeople.org/profiles/tim-pawl

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage at logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the Institute at blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb…Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 21 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. This time around we welcome Dr Madhavi Nevader (University of St Andrews to the podcast. In this part of the interview with Dr Nevader we(Stephanie Nicole Nordby and Jonathan Rutledge) discuss how she became interested in studying the Hebrew Bible and its context, the difficulties around navigating serious and fraudulent archaeological findings for academics and non-academics, the ANE context of Ezekiel and the book's Temple Vision Passage, and much more. Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

1:23 - A description of Dr Nevader's research in Hebrew Bible

2:30 - On archaeological development in Hebrew Bible

3:41 - What drew Dr Nevader to studying the Hebrew Bible

5:34 - How does an informed historical reading bring a text alive?

7:33 - Covenant in its larger ANE context and the Hebrew scriptures

10:01 - Distinguishing between serious and less serious archaeological research

11:27 - A book recommendation for those interested in learning more about major archaeological finds and ANE studies

13:09 - General ANE background to Ezekiel and more particularly, Ezekiel 40-48

14:51 - Hope as a marker of the order of Ezekiel's composition wrt 40-48

16:02 - Who should we credit for the Temple Vision passage?

16:58 - General information from ANE concerning Ezekiel.

18:55 - Temple Vision ANE material (on cubits and whatnot)

21:15 - Who is this figure of the Prince (and Babylonian royal theology)

23:46 - What are some insights theologians can take away concerning Ezekiel's depiction of the circumstances in which God might dwell with God's people?

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

1. Madhavi Nevader - https://risweb.st-andrews.ac.uk/portal/en/persons/madhavi-nevader(105c1949-2a89-41eb-8fb9-9e25bdfb7ff5).html

2. Hebrew Bible Seminars @ University of St Andrews - https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/divinity/current/pg/seminars/bibstud_hb_ot/

3. The Bible Unearthed (by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman) - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bible-Unearthed-Archaeologys-Vision-Ancient/dp/0684869136/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548864666&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Bible+unearthed

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage at http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the Institute at http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb…Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 20 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. After a brief break for Christmas & the New Year, we return for the second part of the interview with Professor C. Stephen Evans (Baylor University, Australian Catholic University, and the University of St Andrews). Our hosts (Stephanie Nicole Nordby and Jonathan Rutledge) discuss with him the nature of accountability, various types of accountability (theistic, secular, and transcendence views), how the virtue of accountability connects with the concepts of the fear of the Lord and autonomy, and much more. Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

1:25 - Three Types of Accountability

5:37 - Ronald Dworkin on Accountability & the Fear of the Lord

8:18 - The Fear of the Lord and Holy Reverence

10:38 - Kierkegaard on Good Anxiety

13:21 - Lack of Accountability as a Systemic Issue

16:45 - The Corresponding Vices of Accountability

17:45 - Autonomy & Accountability

23:10 - Exemplars of Accountability?

27:02 - Plans for the Accountability Grant

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

1. C. Stephen Evans - http://www.baylorisr.org/about-isr/distinguished-professors/c-stephen-evans/

2. Baylor Center for Christian Philosophy - http://bccp.baylorisr.org/

3. The Virtue of Accountability Project - https://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=198338

4. Professor Evans's Many Books - https://www.amazon.co.uk/C.-Stephen-Evans/e/B001IQX9VC/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1544608173&sr=8-1

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage @ http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the Institute @ http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb…Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 19 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. In this first part of the interview with Professor C. Stephen Evans (Baylor University, Australian Catholic University, and the University of St Andrews), our hosts (Stephanie Nicole Nordby and Jonathan Rutledge) discuss Prof Evans's background working at the intersection of philosophy and theology and a new project on which he has begun working to investigate the nature and implications of the virtue of accountability. Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

1:35 - Prof Evans from Wheaton to Yale

6:03 - The Calvin Philosophers

6:25 - The Turn to Accountability

9:42 - Does accountability presuppose the breaking of some moral norm?

12:44 - Eschatological Humans and the Virtue of Accountability

16:37 - Some brief reservations about pure virtue ethics

17:01 - Who else comprises the team of scholars working on this accountability project?

19:30 - What is a virtue?

21:53 - Gratitude, Forgivingness, and Accountability as a Family of Virtues

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

1. C. Stephen Evans - http://www.baylorisr.org/about-isr/distinguished-professors/c-stephen-evans/

2. Baylor Center for Christian Philosophy - http://bccp.baylorisr.org/

3. The Virtue of Accountability Project - https://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=198338

4. Professor Evans's Many Books - https://www.amazon.co.uk/C.-Stephen-Evans/e/B001IQX9VC/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1544608173&sr=8-1

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage @ http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the Institute @ http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb…Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 18 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. In this second part of our interview with Dr Christa McKirland, we (Dr McKirland, Stephanie Nicole Nordby, and Jonathan C. Rutledge) discuss the Logia Initiative within Logos, for which Dr McKirland serves as the director. Logia seeks to support women who want to pursue the study of divinity (theology) in the academy, all the way from the undergraduate level to faculty or staff. Throughout the discussion, we discuss important questions including...(1) How can we pursue gender equality in theology with integrity and in a way that is inclusive of a wide range of theological viewpoints? (2) What are the roles men might play in furthering the vision of Logia? and (3) What are some concrete examples in the church and academy that illustrate the importance of an initiative like Logia.

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest, as well as our monthly blog series dedicated to the highlighting of work from notable women in theology:

1. Christa McKirland - http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/christa-mckirland/

2. LOGIA - http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/logia/

3. Blogos Logia Posts - http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/logia/

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage @ http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the Institute @ http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb…Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 17 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. In this interview with Dr Christa McKirland, we (Dr McKirland, Stephanie Nicole Nordby, and Jonathan C. Rutledge) discuss what it means to be human from a theological point of view, including different construals of what it means to be made in the image of God, whether humans can need anything without that need implying some sort of lack, and whether prior to the Fall (in their pre-lapsarian condition) humanity had certain needs that might have required an Incarnation (i.e. even had there not been a primal sin).

Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

1:22 - From the nature of desire to fundamental needs?

2:13 - Garrett Thompson on the nature of fundamental needs

4:21 - On distinguishing between needs and desires

5:51 - Examples of needs & comparative importance of needs

7:30 - How do fundamental needs relate to the imago dei?

11:04 - Does need entail lack?

16:22 - Inclusivity in theological anthropology & the problems with substance or capacity approaches to the image of God

23:33 - Fundamental needs pre-Fall and post-Fall

27:33 - Incarnation Anyway and Fundamental Human Needs

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

1. Christa McKirland - http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/christa-mckirland/

2. LOGIA - http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/logia/

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage @ http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the institute @ http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb_dtsg_ag=AdwhhK5rtawkwfYqd8WUMRUNGn_PO0l8tiKfBU-4PAc0EQ%3AAdx1Rm34w8Ln5duFF8QYwUONwpNsU_Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 16 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. In this second half of our interview with Dr Joshua Cockayne, we (Stephanie Nicole Nordby & Jonathan C. Rutledge) discuss why Christians should care about questions of liturgy, how it relates to jazz performance, and most importantly, whether non-human creatures can participate in the worship of God. Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

0:30 - Why care about the ontology of groups?

4:13 - How is jazz performance a particularly good analogy for the way liturgy works?

11:49 - How has interacting with the church & academy informed your research?

13:45 - A liturgy joke

17:26 - The importance of reflecting on practice for work on theoretical matters

20:38 - Can dogs worship?

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

Joshua Cockayne - http://joshuacockayne.weebly.com

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage @ http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the institute @ http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb_dtsg_ag=AdwhhK5rtawkwfYqd8WUMRUNGn_PO0l8tiKfBU-4PAc0EQ%3AAdx1Rm34w8Ln5duFF8QYwUONwpNsU_Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w

This is episode 15 of the Logos Institute Podcast, the official podcast of the Logos Institute for Analytic and Exegetical Theology. In this first half of our interview with Dr Joshua Cockayne, we (Stephanie Nicole Nordby & Jonathan C. Rutledge) discuss how Christians should think about the nature of worship and liturgy with special attention paid to the corporate nature of each activity. Here are a few time stamps to help you navigate:

1:30 - Josh's background in philosophy

4:17 - How did you get from art and aesthetics to, now, analytic theology?

5:34 - How would you describe your work?

6:42 - What is liturgy?

9:49 - Is there any reason you prefer to talk about the nature of liturgy as opposed to worship?

10:45 - Is there anything special about corporate (group) liturgy or worship?

12:10 - Why should someone care about corporate worship?

15:53 - Religious Trauma and the Nature of Shattered Faith

20:32 - What sort of thing is the church?

22:47 - Stephanie summarizes quickly the wide range of issues we're discussing;

25:22 - Josh's understanding of the philosophical literature on the nature of groups;

If you've enjoyed listening to this interview, please see other content from our guest:

Joshua Cockayne - http://joshuacockayne.weebly.com

To learn more about the Logos Institute, visit our webpage @ http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. And don't forget to follow us on our blog where we post content from friends of the institute @ http://blogos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk. You can also find us on and Twitter (@TheologyStAs) and Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheologyStAs/?fb_dtsg_ag=AdwhhK5rtawkwfYqd8WUMRUNGn_PO0l8tiKfBU-4PAc0EQ%3AAdx1Rm34w8Ln5duFF8QYwUONwpNsU_Oc4Pz4P0qkCrfO_w