Long Time No Talk

It’s one thing about having a passion for something, it’s another to share a passion with others. Jason shares how he envisioned and hoped for Dinner Talk before it took form.  In particular, the cohesiveness, openness, and shared enjoyment of deep conversations.

Levi opens up about the guilt he feels when he sees spends his time and laying PS4.  He wonders about this, whether his feelings are warranted or not.  Jason relates to his experiences and Larry shares his newly preoccupation with Clash Royale.

The tendency to feel forced and obligated to participate in spiritual activities out of guilt becomes a primary motivator is detailed.

Levi details the importance of creating a conducive environment for study, focus and thought.

We end this conversation with what enhances our personal studies.

Levi raises a previous topic yet to be discussed, the misinterpretation of disobedience.  Before we can arrive to a point of clarity, a deeper understanding must first be established.

As a prelude to a future subject, we detail the notion of circular reasoning, in which the end point is also the beginning. You end where you begin. 

The Disobedience-Death correlation is described.

Continuing from our last talk, we begin with the serpent’s claim and the tendency to identify it as temptation.  By assigning an evaluation, we miss the intention, which is the dispersal of information.  Therefore we can better grasp that knowledge was not derived through the eating of the fruit, rather the tree not to be eaten was a catalyst for delving into deeper truth and matters.

We start out by expounding on the original picture of creation. The tendency to focus on the secondary segment of the picture is highlighted.

The notion that the serpent’s intention was to deceive and tempt is in actuality an evaluation, an appraisal, and result in important pieces missing. So then before an evaluation is determined, what was the intention of the serpent.  In other words, what is the purpose of the temptation? This is the impetus for the use of the metaphor,  putting the cart before the horse. What was the antecedent of the temptation?

Was the intent to create an alternative picture countering the original picture?

If tangibly represented, the picture of the beginning would be depicted by a single form, a single model. However, an alternate picture came into existence establishing two forms. 

Next we explore whether the cause of this second form was a singular or plural event. We delve into probable causes supporting a plural form.

The culmination of our exploration leads us to examine if disobedience of God’s is the sole prominent event.

We end on the notion of antecedents.

Rewell kicks off discussion sharing his self-reflections provoked by our recent conversation.

He comes to the realization thechoices he made in the past and the actions he engaged in were done more automatically rather than deliberately.

He ends his reflections with ”why.”

Before we continue on the path of our series, we take a moment to step back and better understand the picture provided in Eden.  Though it could come across as redundant or overly exhaustive, however, our tendency is to skip ahead while allowing our presumptions to color our ideas.

Together we work to illustrate the account as a method to peel away deep presumptions. The picture we arrive at is a before and after.

Our conversations begin with exploring possible causes for not believing in God.  One such cause is that God is a myth, which we proceed to delve into the notion of myths and mythology.

Perhaps the notion is of myth can be traced all the way back to the garden of Eden and the philosophies espoused at the event.  Then man expounded on “myth” with stories having an affect on perceptions of God.

Next I preview a forthcoming discussion of what occurred at the eating of the fruit. Why did this event result in a litany of negative effects. The common notion identified for the triggering effect is disobedience. We explore perceptions branching from this notion and why.