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Ana Marie Cox is the senior political correspondent for MTV News, conducts the “Talk” interviews in The New York Times Magazine, and founded Wonkette.

“When people are sending me hate mail or threats, one defense I have against that is ‘you don’t know me.’ You know? That wasn’t something I always was able to say. As I’ve become a stronger person, it’s been easier for me to be like, ‘The person they’re attacking, it’s not me.’”

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[00:30] Missing Richard Simmons

[04:15] Cox’s Archive at Suck.com

[10:00] "The Uses of Enchantment" (Suck • Jul 1997)

[11:00] Cox’s Archive at Mother Jones

[12:15] The Chicago Maroon

[12:45] "Waterworld" (Suck • Sep 1996)

[21:45] "Joe Buck Knows Why You Hate Him" (New York Times Magazine • Feb 2017)

[25:30] Cox’s Archive at New York Times Magazine

[25:30] Cox’s Archive at GQ

[29:15] "What Bush Wants You to Do" (Wonkette • Apr 2004)

[30:45] "The Lost Washingtonienne" (Wonkette • May 2004)

[31:30] "Washingtonienne Speaks!! Wonkette Exclusive!! Must Credit Wonkette!! The Washingtonienne Interview!!" (Wonkette • May 2004)

[33:00] "Face Value" (The Baffler • 2012)

[36:15] "Wonkette Founder Cox: ‘If Hillary Wins, It’ll Be Because Black and Brown People Saved Us’" (YouTube • Sep 2016)

[36:30] "Watch MTV News’ Ana Marie Cox’s Emotional Reaction to Latest Trump Sexual Assault Allegations" (Media Matters • Oct 2016)

[39:45] "Fans Tweet About Mental Illness to Honor Carrie Fisher" (Ryan Burleson & Tara Parker-Pope • New York Times • Dec 2016)

[42:15] "Exclusive: Ana Marie Cox Tells Breitbart News Sunday About Her Coming to Christ" (Robert Wilde • Breitbart • Mar 2015)

[42:30] "Why I’m Coming Out as a Christian" (Ana Marie Cox • Daily Beast • Feb 2015)

[48:00] Cox’s Archive at The Guardian

[50:45] Roads & Kingdoms

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Brooke Gladstone is the host of On the Media.

“I’ve learned so much about how easy it is to redefine reality in this era of billions of filter bubbles. How easy it is to cast doubt on what is undeniably true. And I think that that’s what frightens me the most. I actually think that’s what frightens most people the most. How do we make sure that we all live in the same world? Or do we?”

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On the Media

[01:00] Love and Ruin (W.W. Norton & Company • 2016)

[01:15] Gladstone on the Longform Podcast

[05:15] Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History

[07:45] "Will the Supreme Court Stand Up to Trump?" (Linda Greenhouse • New York Times • Feb 2017)

[13:00] "January Surprise" (On the Media • Jan 2017)

[20:00] "Objectivity: What Is It Good For?" (On the Media • Feb 2017)

[29:00] "How Trump Might Save the Media He So Despises" (On the Media • Jan 2017)

[29:15] "Winter Is Coming: Prospects for the American Press Under Trump" (Jay Rosen • PressThink • Dec 2016)

[40:00] "Busted: America’s Poverty Myths" (On the Media • 2016)

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Ezra Edelman is the director of O.J.: Made in America.

“When I say what I learned is that America is even more fucked up than I had previously thought, it’s that—the superficiality of it. How we are willingly seduced by these shiny people and these shiny things. And, again, when I looked at O.J.’s trajectory, that was an operating principle.”

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[00:45] "Vanish" (Evan Ratliff • Wired • Nov 2009)

[00:45] O.J.: Made in America

[02:30] Magic & Bird: A Courtship of Rivals

[10:30] The Straight Story

[20:30] Tamara Rosenburg on IMDB

[38:15] Caroline Waterlow on IMDB

[39:15] Nina Krstic on IMDB

[46:30] "What Football Does to the Brain" (Mike Orcutt • MIT Technology Review • Jan 2016)

[52:15] "Most Black People Now Think O.J. Was Guilty" (Carl Bialik • FiveThirtyEight • Jun 2016)

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Alexey Kovalev is a Moscow-based journalist and the author of the recent article, “A Message to My Doomed Colleagues in the American Media."

“It’s really disheartening to see how little it takes for people to start believing in something that directly contradicts the empirical facts that they are directly confronting. The Russian TV channel tells you that the pill is red, but the pill in front of you is blue. It completely alters the perception of reality. You don’t know what’s real anymore.”

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[00:15] "A message to my doomed colleagues in the American media" (Medium • Jan 2017)

[02:45] RIA Novosti

[06:00] RT

[07:30] Kovalev’s Archive at The Guardian

[11:45] "RT, Information War, and Billions of Views: Where do the numbers come from?" (Translated by Aric Toler • Stop Fake • Jan 2017)

[12:00] Adrian Chen on the Longform Podcast

[12:00] "The Troll Hunters" (Adrian Chen • MIT Technology Review • Dec 2014)

[16:30] The Intelligence Report Assessing Russian Activities in the US Election

[17:00] The Onion

[21:15] "From Headline to Photograph, a Fake News Masterpiece" (Scott Shane • New York Times • Jan 2017)

[28:30] Kovalev’s Archive at The Moscow Times

[29:00] Kovalev’s Archive at Open Democracy

[29:00] "How Fake Stories Reported in Russia’s News Media Regularly Fool Everyone" (Translated by Kevin Rothrock • Global Voices • Sep 2016)

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Jeff Sharlet writes about politics and religion for Esquire, GQ, New York Times Magazine, and more.

“I like the stories with difficult people. I like the stories about people who are dismissed as monsters. I hate the term ‘monster.’ ‘Monster’ is a safe term for us, right? Trump’s a monster. Great, we don’t need to wrestle with, ‘Uh oh, he’s not a monster. He’s in this human family with us.’ I’m not normalizing him. I’m acknowledging the fact. Now, what’s wrong with us? If Trump is human, what’s wrong with you?”

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Sharlet on Longform

[00:15] "David Fahrenthold: Investigating Trump" (Katie Couric • Katie Couric Show • Dec 2016)

[00:30] "Edward Snowden: The Whistleblower" (Katie Couric • Katie Couric Show • Dec 2016)

[07:00] Decât o Revistă

[08:00] "Bullies in the Schoolyard" (Tablet • Dec 2016)

[08:30] Killing the Buddha

[08:45] Go Tell It on the Mountain (James Baldwin • Vintage • 2013)

[09:00] The Apostle

[10:30] Wisconsin Death Trip (Michael Lesy • University of New Mexico Press • 2000)

[11:15] Pakn Treger

[12:30] The Chronicle of Higher Education

[13:30] Killing the Buddha: A Heretic’s Bible (with Peter Manseau • Free Press • 2004)

[18:45] "Jesus plus nothing" (Harper’s • Mar 2003) [sub req’d]

[18:45] The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power (Harper Perennial • 2009)

[22:45] "Straight Man’s Burden" (Harper’s • Sep 2010)

[27:30] "Ashcroft’s Ascent" (Jeffrey Toobin • New Yorker • Apr 2002)

[28:00] John Ashcroft Sings “Let the Eagle Soar” (YouTube)

[30:00] "The Runaway General" (Michael Hastings • Rolling Stone • Jun 2010)

[30:45] "James Webb’s Never-Ending War" (Rolling Stone • Jun 2007)

[31:45] "The Ministry of Fun" (Esquire • Aug 2016)

[37:00] "Are You Man Enough for the Men’s Rights Movement?" (GQ • Feb 2014)

[42:30] "Dubliners" (Virginia Quarterly Review • 2016)

[45:30] C Street: The Fundamentalist Threat to American Democracy (Little, Brown and Company • 2010)

[46:30] "Donald Trump, American Preacher" (New York Times Magazine • Apr 2016)

[51:45] "A&E Shelves a K.K.K. Documentary Series Over Cash Payments" (New York Times • Dec 2016)

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Jace Clayton is a music writer and musician who records as DJ /rupture. His book is Uproot: Travels in 21st-Century Music and Digital Culture.

“What does it mean to be young and have some sound inside your head? Or to be in a scene that you want to broadcast to the world? That notion of the world is changing, who you’re broadcasting to is changing, all these different things—the tool sets. But there’s this very fundamental joy of music making. I was like, ‘Ok. Let’s find flashpoints where interesting things are happening and can be unpacked that shed different little spotlights on it, but do fall into this wider view of how we articulate what’s thrilling to be alive right now.’”

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[04:15] Uproot: Travels in 21st-Century Music and Digital Culture (Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2016)

[05:00] Wax Poetic

[05:30] "Slow Burn" (The Fader • Jul 2008)

[06:00] "Past Masters" (The National • Mar 2009)

[15:30] "Pitch Perfect" (Frieze • May 2009)

[23:30] Mudd Up!

[29:15] "Julius Eastman Memorial Dinner" (The Music Gallery • Oct 2014)

[29:30] Julius Eastman’s Femenine

[35:00] The Mudd Up! Radio Archive

[37:45] Caroline Shaw

[40:00] "Cairo: Something New" (The Fader • Oct 2012)

[41:15] "Tribal Guarachero: Mexican Teens & Aztec History" (The Fader • Oct 2010)

[42:15] Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game (Michael Lewis • W.W. Norton & Company • 2004)

[44:45] Tigerbeat6

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Terry Gross is the host and co-executive producer of Fresh Air.

“Part of my philosophy of life is that you have to live with a certain amount of delusion. And part of the delusion I live with is that maybe, from experience, I’m getting a little bit better. But then the other part of me, the more overpowering part of me, is the pessimistic part that says, ‘It’s going to be downhill from here.’ I try not to judge myself too much because I’m so self-judgmental that I don’t want to over-judge and get into too much of ‘Am I better than I was yesterday, or not?’”

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Fresh Air

[26:30] "Hillary Clinton: The Fresh Air Interview" (Fresh Air • Jun 2014)

[29:30] "Among the Hillary Haters" (Hanna Rosin • The Atlantic • Mar 2015)

[43:53] "Our Mission and Vision" (NPR • 1971)

[52:45] "Fresh Air 2: 2 Fresh 2 Furious" (YouTube)

[56:16] All I Did Was Ask: Conversations with Writers, Actors, Musicians, and Artists (Hachette Books • 2005)

[58:30] "’Fresh Air’ Host Terry Gross: I Always Think Listeners Are Disappointed When They Meet Me" (Jim Romenesko • Jim Romenesko Blog • May 2015)

[59:15] "Terry Gross and the Art of Opening Up" (Susan Burton • New York Times Magazine • Oct 2015)

[1:03:45] Morning Edition

[1:04:00] WTF with Marc Maron

[1:04:00] The Longest Shortest Time

[1:04:15] "Episode #1: Peter Sagal Opens Up" (The Hilarious World of Depression • Dec 2016)

[1:04:45] The Pub

[1:05:00] This American Life

[1:05:00] On the Media

[1:05:00] How to Be Amazing with Michael Ian Black

[1:13:00] "Maurice Sendak: On Life, Death and Children’s Lit" (Fresh Air • Sep 2011)

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Ta-Nehisi Coates is the author of Between the World and Me and a national correspondent for The Atlantic. His latest cover story is “My President Was Black."

“[People] have come to see me as somebody with answers, but I don’t actually have answers. I’ve never had answers. The questions are the enthralling thing for me. Not necessarily at the end of the thing getting somewhere that’s complete—it’s the asking and repeated asking. I don’t know how that happened, but I felt like after a while it got to the point where I was seen as having unique answers, and I just didn’t. I really, really didn’t.”

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Coates on Longform

[00:15] The 100th Episode of the Longform Podcast

[00:45] "My President Was Black" (Atlantic • Dec 2016)

[01:15] Longform’s Best of 2016 List

[01:45] Shane Bauer on the Longform Podcast

[02:00] "Prince of the Forty Thieves" (David Gauvey Herbert • Atavist • Dec 2016)

[03:15] Coates’s First Appearance on the Longform Podcast

[03:15] Coates’s Second Appearance on the Longform Podcast

[03:15] Coates’s Third Appearance on the Longform Podcast

[04:30] Black Panther: A Nation Under Our Feet (Marvel • 2016)

[09:30] Between the World and Me (Spiegel & Grau • 2015)

[09:45] "The Case for Reparations" (Atlantic • Jun 2014)

[13:45] Coates’s Archive at Washington City Paper

[16:45] "On Homecomings" (Atlantic • May 2016)

[18:45] "The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration" (Atlantic • Oct 2015)

[20:45] "Fear of a Black President" (Atlantic • Sep 2012)

[21:15] Jonathan Chait’s Archive at New York

[30:30] "The Cosby Show" (Atlantic • Nov 2014)

[35:15] Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (Barack Obama • Three Rivers Press • 2004)

[35:30] "‘The Filter…Is Powerful’: Obama on Race, Media, and What It Took to Win" (Atlantic • Dec 2016)

[43:45] "Obama’s Full Remarks at Howard University Commencement Ceremony" (Politico Staff • Politico • May 2016)

[50:30] Nate Silver on the Longform Podcast

[51:30] "Other People’s Pathologies" (Atlantic • Mar 2014)

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Hua Hsu writes for The New Yorker and is the author of A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific.

“I remember, as a kid, my dad telling me that when he moved to the United States he subscribed to The New Yorker, and then he canceled it after a month because he had no idea what any of it was about. You know, at the time, it certainly wasn’t a magazine for a Chinese immigrant fresh off the boat—or off the plane, rather—in the early 70s. And I always think about that. I always think, ‘I want my dad to understand even though he’s not that interested in Dr.Dre.’ I still think, ‘I want him to be able to glean something from this.’”

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Hsu on Longform

[03:45] A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific (Harvard University Press • 2016)

[04:00] The Good Earth (Pearl S. Buck • Washington Square Press • 1931)

[06:00] "Where’s the Beef?" (Slate • Jul 2007)

[07:15] And China Has Hands (H.T. Tsiang • Ironweed Press • 2003)

[09:00] "On the Road with Hannibal Buress, Comedy’s Most Respected Slacker" (The Fader • Apr 2015)

[14:45] "The Remarkable Forgotten Life of H. T. Tsiang" (New Yorker • Jul 2016)

[14:45] "Endless Endless: Kraftwek at MoMA" (Paris Review • May 2012)

[26:15] "A God Dream" (New Yorker • Feb 2016)

[26:45] Hsu’s Archive at Grantland

[26:45] "All Hail the Chairmen: Jonathan Olivares’s ‘Taxonomy of Office Chairs’" (LA Review of Books • Apr 2012)

[28:45] Pitchfork

[28:45] Stereogum

[29:45] "Reality Hunger" (New Yorker • Aug 2015)

 

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Carl Zimmer, a columnist for the New York Times and a national correspondent at STAT, writes about science.

“[Criticism] doesn’t change the truth. You know? Global warming is still happening. Vaccines still work. Evolution is still true. No matter what someone on Twitter or someone in an administration is going to say, it’s still true. So, we science writers have to still be letting people know about what science has discovered, what we with our minds have discovered about the world—to the best of our abilities. That’s our duty as science writers, and we can’t let these things scare us off.”

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Zimmer on Longform

[01:00] Ross Andersen on the Longform Podcast

[02:45] Zimmer’s column at the New York Times

[02:45] Zimmer’s books

[04:00] "The Rise of the Tick" (Outside • Apr 2013)

[6:40] "Sleepless in South Sudan" (Radiolab • Oct 2011)

 

[08:15] Parasite Rex: Inside the Bizarre World of Nature’s Most Dangerous Creatures (Simon & Schuster • 2000)

[08:30] "A Sleeping Storm" (Discover • Aug 1998)

[25:00] "How Scientists Stalked a Lethal Superbug—With the Killer’s Own DNA" (Wired • Jan 2013)

[25:30] "Game of Genomes Episode 1: Man Inside the Hard Drive" (STAT • Jul 2016)

[30:00] "How Fighter Pilots Stay Sharp" (Evan Ratliff • Men’s Journal • Dec 2013)

[31:15] Zimmer’s Mosaic Archive

[33:00] "King of the Cosmos" (Playboy • Jan 2012)

[35:00] Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey

[36:15] Star Talk

[38:30] "Global Warming Alters Arctic Food Chain, Scientists Say, With Unforeseeable Results" (New York Times • Nov 2016)

[40:00] "Special Report: Endless Summer—Living With the Greenhouse Effect" (Andrew C. Revkin • Discover • Oct 1988)

[46:45] At the Water’s Edge: Fish with Fingers, Whales with Legs, and How Life Came Ashore but Then Went Back to Sea (Touchstone • 1999)

[52:30] "The Girl Who Turned to Bone" (Atlantic • Jun 2013)

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