Nate chats with this friend CJ about the unexpected passing of CJ's father, the role father figures played in his life and CJ's current work as an estate planner.

0:00 Intro

1:31 CJ's dad

5:08 Framing career

9:11 Unexpected passing

26:40 Adopted fathers

29:50 Estate planning for contractors

36:05 Do this one thing

42:00 Facing Mortality

52:15 Cost of estate planning

59:46 Timing matter

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