Ben and Andrew open the show by discussing the emergence of the DeepSeek AI model, Google's shakeup of the SEO landscape, and speculate on whether or not we're seeing the death of free APIs.

Then, Ben sits down with Bernd Ruecker, Co-Founder and Chief Technologist at Camunda, to explore how low code solutions are changing the game for developers. They discuss how these tools allow developers to focus on more complex challenges, and delve into the importance of understanding when to leverage low code versus custom solutions, and the evolving role of developers in a world increasingly driven by automation.

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Show Notes:

• Dev Interrupted Survey
• Beyond the DORA Frameworks Workshop (Jan. 29, 30)
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• Follow Bernd
• Learn more at: camunda.com
• Camundacon 2025

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