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California dreamer Demi Lovato joins the long list of people who don’t conform to the recovery narrative. Only she’s up front about it.

Demi Lovato’s intense substance-use history almost killed her. But Lovato is different: she recognizes that what almost killed her was the recovery narrative: “You’re doomed as an addict from birth; you can stave off destruction with absolute abstinence for as long as you can (in Lovato’s case six years); then we can’t help you. (And, by the way, you proved us right that you were doomed—sorry🙃).”

Lovato’s recovery narrative: “I had poor control over my life as a young artist, including eating, substance use, finances, what have you. Who knows how to handle all that when you’re 20? But after nearly dying, I put the Lovato package together in a new form. I drink and smoke pot, which I can handle. I decide on my diet. And I make my own financial decisions. It’s called ‘controlling you life’. I don’t want to tell other people what to do. But I think more people could benefit from my approach.”

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Dr. Stanton Peele and Zach Rhoads respond to news threads that link the recent Atlanta murders to sex addiction.  

Does this claim make sense or is the "sex addiction" claim simply an insanity plea with no merit?  Peele and Rhoads get into the subtleties on today's "Sundays With Stories"

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Meghan Markel is being used as an example of how speaking openly about depression is invaluable in order to get treatment and avoid suicide.

Well, not so fast... 

Here are some salient facts: America has the most depression treatment and the highest suicide rate (both much higher than in the U.K.) among economically advanced societies. Markel (a) didn’t get treatment, (b) worked through her situation with her husband to change it, (c) seems no longer to be depressed.

Can you explain the preceding? Dr. Peele and Zach do in this episode, with examples from their personal and professional lives.

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Dr. Carl Hart has faced rough seas promoting his new book. As helpers and theorists who have faced similar tempests, Stanton and Zach offer some helpful hints.

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An audience member asks 'Is "Sex Addiction" different from "Love Addiction' and can the two concepts be used interchangeably?  Stanton explores the differences between the two terms and illustrates a comparative parallel between different genres of 'drug addiction'.

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Madeleine Dean: We admire you, but you’re thinking about America’s addiction problems is all wrong. 

Dr. Peele and Zach explain to the Congresswoman how she is going in exactly the wrong direction in her addiction policies following on her son’s recovery in rehab.   

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An audience member asks 'Is "Sex Addiction" different from "Love Addiction' and can the two concepts be used interchangeably? 

Stanton explores the differences between the two terms and illustrates a comparative parallel between different genres of 'drug addiction'.

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Dr. Stanton Peele and Zach Rhoads discuss Jordan Peterson's work, his views about addiction, and how he handled his own addiction to benzodiazepines (with an understanding that Peterson makes a distinction between "addiction proper" and what he believes was his own "physical dependence"-- a distinction the two discuss in another video).

Peterson is an intelligent, compelling, and very famous psychologist whose rise to fame was unexpected, even to him.  Much of what he did with that fame was noble-- namely, helping disparaged people "put themselves back together" (his words).

On the other hand, Peterson perpetuates mythology as well, including addiction mythology, which Peele and Rhoads tackle in the episode.

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Dr. Carl Hart explains that the vast majority of people who use drugs do so with no problem. In fact, drugs -- yes, even so-called "hard drugs"-- offer more positive than negative experiences.

Dr. Hart is a professor (and former chair) of psychology and psychiatry at Columbia University. Today, he opens up to Zach Rhoads about his new book, "Drug Use For Grown-Ups", in which he's comes out of the closet about his own drug use and encourages the rest of us to do the same.

And why is he so boosterish about speaking openly about (even illicit) drug use? Well, as he says in this interview:

"As long as you put forth an effort, you might make a mistake.  That's okay, we're all human.   The real crime is when you make a mistake, you don't acknowledge it, then continue to speak dishonestly about it.   We've been making tremendous mistakes about drugs, and I'm asking that people admit it and move past it so that we don't continue to force people to suffer." 

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0:00 - 1:53 Introduction / drug use during the pandemic  

1:53 - 5:20  Genesis of the book / when Carl began using illicit drugs RESPONSIBLY  

5:20 - 8:34  When and why Carl began using heroin / the positive effects of using heroin responsibly  

8:34 - 9:33  Zach opens up about his past heroin use and why he quit using it  

9:33 - 12:00  Why even the most BRILLIANT minds of our time get locked into-- and then perpetuate-- drug / addiction mythology.   

12:00 - 14:16  Racism and ignorance in history--- how we've all come to believe drug myths  

14:16 - 15:12  Acknowledging our mistakes, as individuals and as a culture  

15:12 - 17:05  Carl's response to Joe Rogan (re: "My flesh-eating friend on PCP") and others when they speak nonsense about drugs  

17:05 - 20:45  What Carl means by, "harm reduction has to go"  

20:45 - 24:14 Psychedelics and spiritual health  /  Drug exceptionalism   

24:14 - 26:24  Addiction is NOT a brain disease  

26:24 - 27:20  Is addiction mythology (a la NIDA) foul play OR is it intellectual laziness?   

27:20 - 30:15  How and why Carl came out of the closet about his drug use (2.0)  

30:15 - 31:50  Dr. Drew is full of shit   

31:50 - 33:03  False drug stories about drugs offer people an identity  

33:03 - 34:00  Top 3 most egregious drug myths   

34:00 - 36:55  What small steps can listeners take to squash drug/addiction mythology?  

36:55 - 39:50  "I worry about my family and their interaction with POLICE more than I worry that drugs might harm them."  

39:50 - 41:42  Book reviewers just don't understood this book's intention.   

41:42 - 42:55  Feeling alone as a truth-teller in academia  

42:55 - END -- How Stanton Peele has influenced Carl's work / mutual thanks & signing off!    

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Dr. Stanton Peele and Zach Rhoads answer the following frequently asked question: Is LPP a “trauma informed program”?

They offer a definition of “trauma” in several contexts. Then they discuss differences between traumatic events and adverse conditions in life.

Peele and Rhoads also consider what it means to be trauma informed versus believing trauma is responsible for addiction.

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