M&A Science

Russ Heddleston, Co-founder & former CEO, DocSend

Every owner loves their business. This makes selling their company even harder than it already is. But aside from the emotional turmoil that founders go through every exit, there are also a lot of intricacies included in the process.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Russ Heddleston, Co-founder & former CEO of DocSend, discusses the challenges of sell-side M&A.

Things you will also learn in this episode:

• Considerations in Potentially Selling a Startup

• Challenges of sell-side M&A

• Key Factors for a Successful Exit

• How to manage diligence in sell-side M&A

00:00 Intro

04:10 Starting DocSend

06:08 Identifying the Inflection Point to sell

09:01 Selling a Startup

10:46 Considerations in Potentially Selling a Startup

14:28 Best Time for an Exit

16:00 Balancing Stakeholder Interests in an Acquisition

17:50 Relationship Management in an Acquisition

19:46 How Relationships Influence Negotiations

20:41 Relationships with Bankers

23:14 Reaching out to DropBox

26:16 Key Factors for a Successful Exit

28:04 Impact of Market Conditions on M&A

28:45 The Unknowns of Selling a Business

30:53 Post-Acquisition Challenges and Unknowns

32:34 Enhancing Preparation for Post-Close Integration

34:05 Tips for Buyers for Smoother Integration

35:18 Challenges of Sell-side M&A

37:15 Efficiently Managing Diligence

38:46 People involved from pre-LOI to Close

41:36 Post-Acquisition Team Dynamics

43:01 Evaluating Alternatives to Selling

48:28 Fundraising Strategies to Minimize Dilution

49:44 Advice for Acquirers Seeking Successful Acquisitions

51:29 Effective Strategies for Corporate Leaders to Engage with Founders

53:14 Craziest thing in M&A

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Jason Mironov, Managing Director at TA Associates

Partnering with PE firms is a great way to exponentially grow a business and reach new heights. However, there are considerations that must be taken into account, before taking PE capital. Fully understanding them will increase chances of success, in the attempt to unlock the full potential of the business.

In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Jason Mironov, Managing Director at TA Associates, discusses the pros and cons of taking PE capital.

00:00 Intro

05:29 The Lack of Operating Experience

07:03 Pros of taking money from a private equity firm

11:01 Other factors to take money from PE firms

12:49 Cons of taking money from private equity

17:16 Focusing on IRR

22:10 Culture of focusing on numbers

26:54 Working with Unhappy CEO

30:06 Board control

35:33 Expectation for the Board Structure

38:30 Dilution for founders

42:53 How to build and preserve wealth

47:20 Approach on partnership

51:03 Handling Inbound Contacts

56:51 Creating value before partnership starts

01:03:15 Working with the founder

01:05:38 Pushing M&A to portcos

01:08:51 Founder Exit

01:16:01 Timeline of investment

01:20:26 Craziest thing in M&A

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Michael Frankel, Founder and Managing Partner of Trajectory Capital

When times are good, big companies tend to ignore their smaller business units, as they operate smoothly on their own. It is only when the economy gets tough that these little businesses get more attention, and often seen as off-strategy or a distraction. That's when the company's leaders decide it's time to sell them, which is not ideal, as the business is no longer in their prime, making it harder to sell.

In this episode of M&A Science podcast, Michael Frankel, Founder and Managing Partner of Trajectory Capital, joins us to share his best practices of selling a small business unit.

00:00 Intro

03:35 The decision to sell a business

05:01 Reasons to sell the business

06:43 Steps in selling a small business unit

09:59 Finding buyers

11:53 Avoid using bankers

13:30 Pitching the deal

14:50 Avoiding non-serious buyers

16:42 Important factors other than price

23:01 Real life example

27:54 Valuation gap

30:29 Evaluating the business

34:45 Hardest part of selling a small business unit

37:03 Advice for first time buyers

41:48 Proactively approaching a seller

47:25 Earnouts on small deals

48:44 Craziest Thing in M&A

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Swapnil Shinde, CEO at Zeni

Selling your business is never easy. Aside from the emotional stress that it provides, it can also be detrimental to the business if it's sold to the wrong company. Oftentimes, during the process, it can also serve as a massive distraction to the operations, harming the business in the process.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will discuss how to create a positive exit experience in M&A with Swapnil Shinde, CEO at Zeni.

Things you will learn:

• Reasons for the first exit

• Reacting vs Proactive Exits

• Hardest part of selling a business

• Role of sellers in Integration Planning

• Do's and Don'ts of Buying a company

00:00 Intro

06:31 Reasons for the first exit

09:19 Venture Exit

12:19 Build to sell

14:03 Reacting vs Proactive Exits

16:28 Using Bankers during Exits

19:09 Hardest part of selling a business

21:30 Managing Diligence

24:28 Lessons Learned on Diligence

28:03 Keeping and building relationships

29:29 Role of sellers in Integration Planning

32:29 Reasons why Integration fails

34:49 Worst exit experience

36:31 Making integration successful

38:25 Do's and Don'ts of Buying a company

39:41 Identifying Cultural Fit

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Chris Von Bogdandy, Global Lead M&A Solutions at Slalom

Revenue synergies are why you're doing the deal in the first place. But unlike cost synergies that happen instantly, revenue synergies are more difficult to achieve and often go unrealized. One of the biggest problems in M&A is that when a company pursues a deal, different departments have varying perspectives on what's essential. So how do you maintain the deal thesis as a central focus?

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Chris Von Bogdandy, Global Lead M&A Solutions at Slalom, discusses his framework for realizing revenue synergies in M&A.

Things you will learn:

•Importance of Revenue Synergies

•Correlation between M&A strategy and Revenue Synergies

•Understanding Customer Journey

•Planning for Revenue Synergies Pre-LOI

•Agile M&A

00:00 Intro

06:17 Importance of Revenue Synergies

09:58 Correlation between M&A strategy and Revenue Synergies

16:42 Timeline of Revenue Synergies

18:49 Realistic Revenue Synergies

21:14 Understanding Customer Journey

24:44 Planning for Revenue Synergies Pre-LOI

27:38 Capturing Revenue Synergies Post-LOI

31:04 Executing the Plan

34:21 Cross-Functional Work Streams

36:29 New product introduction process

40:15 Agile M&A

43:31 Disbanding team and workstreams

46:57 Top three principles to success

48:48 Advice for next generation of young leaders in M&A

This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit https://www.mascience.com/academy.

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Casey Nault, Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Chief ESG Officer at Coeur Mining, Inc. (NYSE: CDE)

ESG in M&A is very real. And while it is a fairly new term, it represents a range of critical issues and priorities that companies have long considered. In many ways, ESG has always been important and is essential for risk management and maintaining company value, even for for-profit organizations.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will discuss how to focus on ESG in M&A, featuring Casey Nault, SVP, General Counsel, and Chief ESG Officer at Coeur Mining, Inc.

Things you will learn:

•Importance of ESG in M&A

•Balancing ESG and profit

•ESG diligence

•Red flags during ESG diligence

•ESG on cross-border deals

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00:00 Intro

07:31 M&A in the Mining Industry

09:26 Valuation and Deal Structures in the Mining Industry

13:51 Foreign Corrupt Practices Act

15:57 Importance of ESG

20:13 Disaggregating ESG

21:49 Sustainability in today's market

24:04 Balancing ESG and profit

26:52 ESG considerations during M&A

30:58 Evolution of ESG approach

32:41 ESG diligence

33:35 Red flags during ESG diligence

35:31 Deal Stoppers

36:36 Designated person sustainability

37:17 Diligence Execution during M&A

39:19 ESG on cross-border deals

40:55 Negotiations on cross border deals

42:47 Advice for practitioners

43:18 Craziest thing in M&A

Brock Blake, Co-Founder and CEO at Lendio

M&A is a never-ending web of complexities and challenges. While the potential for growth and transformation is promising, the chances of failure are extremely high. To increase chances of success, acquirers must learn how to be adaptable and work with the target company for alignment.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Brock Blake, Co-Founder and CEO of Lendio, shares their approach on how not to bomb your first M&A deal.

You will learn:

• How to drive your first deal

• Understanding the cultural aspect of M&A

• Strategizing acquisitions

• Validating assumptions before acquisition commitment

• Budget allocation for an earnout

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00:00 Intro

06:02 Getting into M&A

07:14 First deals and their drivers

10:43 Second Acquisition

14:49 Third Acquisition

18:43 Understanding the cultural aspect

25:17 The new deal approach

29:10 Strategizing acquisitions

32:07 Validating assumptions before acquisition commitment

38:14 Budget allocation for an earnout

41:37 Craziest thing in M&A

Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak

Value creation in any acquisition relies heavily on how well the M&A integration goes. By focusing on integration, buyers can increase their chances of success in obtaining and realizing their intended synergies. But how well can it go if the company's integration lead is a first-timer?

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Learn the basics of M&A integration execution, with Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak.

You will learn:

• How to coach a first-time integration leader

• Getting ready for day one

• Kickoff meeting strategies

• Challenges during integration

• Setting alignment for kickoff meetings

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom.

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Episode Bookmark

00:00 Intro 05:09 Coaching an integration lead 06:33 Involving the Integration Lead 12:42 Integration on Day one 17:49 Getting ready for Day one 22:31 M&A teams to pull in for integration 25:41 Kickoff meeting strategies 31:12 Maintaining regular cadence for good progress 35:53 Umbrella track 37:47 How to track integration activities 42:38 Challenges during integration 47:55 Mechanical things that could go wrong during integration 52:59 Setting alignment for kickoff meetings 56:26 What success looks like through stories 01:01:50 How to know when the integration is complete 01:03:42 Advice for first timers 01:07:48 Craziest thing in M&A

ChatGPT Voice, powered by OpenAI.

This past year, AI has revolutionized the way we do things, and ChatGPT has been a big part of that. Created by OpenAI, ChatGPT can understand and use language like a human, making it extremely useful in a lot of different areas. And now, we can actually talk to it.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we are introducing our first-ever ChatGPT interview. We are going to learn its insights on AI's impact on the world of M&A.

You will learn more about:

• AI's role in deal sourcing

• Streamlining due diligence using AI

• Future of M&A

• Limitations of AI

• ChatGPT's advice on integrating AI into M&A

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom.

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy.

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

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00:00 Intro

03:06 Revolutionizing M&A with AI

03:53 AI's role in Deal sourcing

08:08 AI's role in deal valuation process

12:41 Limitations of ChatGPT

14:05 Streamlining due diligence

18:00 AI's impact on M&A integration

22:10 Case Study: Daimler Chrysler merger

25:15 Case Study: Amazon acquiring Whole Foods

28:14 Future of M&A

30:23 DealRoom

32:40 How to incorporate AI into DealRoom

35:57 Positive business outcomes using DealRoom

37:41 Ethical Considerations Using AI

39:28 Limitations of AI

41:04 Advice on integrating AI into M&A

43:10 Craziest thing in M&A

Dr. Karl-Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP (FRA: SAP)

In today's digital era, the pervasive influence of technology is felt in every facet of business, and Mergers and Acquisitions (M&A) are no different. The arrival of innovation and automation will soon make their way to the industry, streamlining processes that could bolster productivity and facilitate smoother post-merger integration.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Dr. Karl Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP, discusses in detail automation in M&A.

Things you will learn:

• Measuring Strategy during automation

• Strategic Fit Analysis

• Identifying Targets

• Quantifying culture in M&A

• Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom.

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy.

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

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00:00 Intro

07:10 Measuring Strategy

10:00 Structuring Strategies

13:53 Quantifying Metadata

16:24 Breaking it down into details to complete the strategy

18:49 Strategic Fit Analysis

20:06 Identifying Targets

22:40 Cascading of Strategy

25:33 Changing the strategy

27:11 Learning from the target company

31:18 Quantifying culture in M&A

32:47 Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A

34:50 Automation in M&A

39:27 The late evolution of M&A

40:51 Craziest thing in M&A