The panel of David Ginsburg, Jeff Gamet, Mark Fuccio, Guy Serle, Jim Rea, Andrew Orr, and Kelly Guimont wrap up our discussion of chat apps and security by taking the larger view of security, examining why so many users don’t practice good security, the misunderstandings surrounding security, and why adopting a new, more secure chat app meets with so much resistance. (Part 2) Smile This edition of MacVoices is sponsored by Smile, the makers of world-class software like PDFpen, PDFpen Pro, and TextExpander. Find out more at TextExpander.com/podcast and SmileSoftware.com/podcast. Show Notes: Guests: David Ginsburg is the President of the Suburban Chicago Apple Users Group, and is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Find and follow him on Twitter as @daveg65. You can also hear him share his knowledge on his podcast, In Touch With iOS. Jeff Gamet is the author of Fresh Brewed Tales, a chronicle of Jeff's strange adventures at coffee shops. You can find his regular updates on Twitter. Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter on LinkedIn. Guy Serle, best known for being one of the co-hosts of the MyMac Podcast, sincerely apologizes for anything he has done or caused to have happened while in possession of dangerous podcasting equipment. He should know better but being a blonde from Florida means he's probably incapable of understanding the damage he has wrought. Guy is also the author of the novel, The Maltese Cube. You can follow his exploits on Twitter, catch him on Mac to the Future on Facebook, and find everything at VertShark.com. Jim Rea is the brains behind ProVue, the developers of the Panorama X database. Follow him on Twitter as @provuejim. Kelly Guimont is a longtime Apple geek, sitting down (on a telephone book) in front of an Apple IIe in 1983. She can still hear the ticking of the ImageWriter. Thanks to the miracle of the adjustable leg desk, she no longer needs the phonebook. Kelly writes for The Mac Observer, is the host of the Daily Observations Podcast, is co-host of The Aftershow, and yet still has more to say which she saves for Twitter and Micro.blog. Andrew Orr is a freelance writer and amateur photographer. He loves Apple products and enjoys writing and sharing all things tech. When he's not writing about Apple, you can often find him snapping photos with his iPhone. Read what he writes at The Mac Observer, and follow him on Twitter. Links: Signal WhatsApp Clubhouse Support: Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon http://patreon.com/macvoices Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect: Web: http://macvoices.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner http://www.twitter.com/macvoices Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner MacVoices Page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/ MacVoices Group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe: Audio in iTunes Video in iTunes Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher: Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss