Make It. Share It.

Join us as we welcome back our very first return guest, author Craig Cunningham, to talk about his new fable, The Cathedral.

Craig shares the origin of the story—a years-old vision of building an actual cathedral in the West Texas desert—and how that idea eventually merged with his own journey as a writer into the tale of Adeo, a boy called to build a cathedral of his own.

Craig walks us through writing the first draft in three uninterrupted days in Terlingua, Texas, how he finds the voice for every one of his stories, and the four mentors who guide Adeo across his life: the traveler, the architect, the magician, and the angel. The conversation lands on the book's central twist...the cathedral was never the building. It was always being built in him.

Listen to the full episode for:

Craig's story of finding his novel's voice through a single opening line, and why that line changes everything for him creatively.

A rich discussion on why self-promotion feels impossible for so many creatives, and why doing it anyway matters.

Lauren and Steven's own stories of building something (a coffee shop, a music career) that shaped them more than the outcome ever could.

Resources from the show:

The Cathedral

Three Days In Terlingua

Craig's Website

One Night In A Thousand Years Film Journal

The Cave, The Road, The Table, and The Fire

Kurt Vonnegut On Buying An Envelope:

(talking about when he tells his wife he’s going out to buy an envelope)Oh, she says well, you’re not a poor man. You know, why don’t you go online and buy a hundred envelopes and put them in the closet? And so I pretend not to hear her. And go out to get an envelope because I’m going to have a hell of a good time in the process of buying one envelope. I meet a lot of people. And, see some great looking babes. And a fire engine goes by. And I give them the thumbs up. And, and ask a woman what kind of dog that is. And, and I don’t know. The moral of the story is, is we’re here on Earth to fart around. And, of course, the computers will do us out of that. And, what the computer people don’t realize, or they don’t care, is we’re dancing animals.”

Chapters

00:00 Welcome back from summer break
01:58 Craig Cunningham returns — first repeat guest
02:27 Reading the back cover of The Cathedral
04:31 The genesis: a cathedral in the West Texas desert
06:44 Writing in Terlingua — finding the voice
08:12 The opening line that unlocked the story
10:58 Reading the book's opening passage
17:38 The four mentors: traveler, architect, magician, angel
20:35 The ending — the cathedral burns, and the twist
22:39 "The project is never the project"
26:16 Lauren on Storied Provisions and process over outcome
27:20 You don't know the impact of what you build
28:57 Steven's winding path in music
32:04 "Obedience is the only strategy"
35:11 Why you have to actually tell people about your work
39:45 What's happened since The Cathedral released
42:28 Where to find Craig and the book
44:48 Buying local + the Vonnegut envelope story
47:58 One Night in a Thousand Years update
54:24 Closing thoughts

Join us on Make It. Share It. as we sit down with Donna Stuart, worship leader, songwriter, illustrator, and author from the Washington DC area, for a conversation that will change how you think about your creative delays, your hidden seasons, and the projects that won’t let you go.

Donna has been making and sharing things for decades: touring with a band, leading worship, co-leading a church with her husband Ben, and quietly working on a poetry project called Growing for the last ten years. Growing explores seven seasons of the soul, told in verse, from the darkness of a buried seed to the rise above the ground, through pruning, storms, death, and everything in between. And it finally landed.

In this episode, Donna walks us through the creative odyssey behind Growing—from its origin in the idea that Dr. Seuss’s “useless” waiting place was actually anything but, to the five iterations it took before it could finally be held in someone’s hands. She shares why it became a coloring flip book (because publishers didn’t get it and self-printing cost $10,000), how QR codes saved the project, and why she now believes the decade of waiting wasn’t delay; it was formation.

“Everything I create is out of the overflow of the love that I’ve received. And when my reception of love was broken — my creativity was broken too.”

🔑 Three Key Takeaways

The Waiting Place Is Not Useless. Donna rejected Dr. Seuss’s characterization of the waiting place as useless, then spent a decade proving it wrong. Every chapter of Growing required her to actually live through the season she was writing about. The hidden years were the content.

Misplaced Love Stifles Creativity. During COVID, Donna experienced a personal revival centered on one realization: she was receiving love from people who didn’t have the capacity to give it. Reorienting her loves: putting God first and right-sizing everything else gave her a new capacity to create.

Your Market May Not Exist Yet. Create Anyway. From QR codes that didn’t exist when she first imagined Growing to Canva, which made her book possible years later, Donna’s story is a reminder that technology and audience often catch up. Your job is to keep making.

Something Unexpected

Donna wrote a Hallmark movie song in 40 minutes in a parking lot, while waiting to pick up her son from boxing. She had just prayed over her journal, asking God to let her take a swing at something she’d always dreamed of. The song went to the top of Hallmark’s list, and it was eventually performed by two Broadway stars: the actress who played Glinda and the actor who played Fiyero in Wicked.

Listen to the Full Episode For:

* The full story of Growing — ten years, five iterations, one coloring flip book

* Why Donna called out The Giving Tree for codependency

* What resilience actually looks like in the creative “cave” — and why she’s grateful for it

* The Mercy Me bus story — self-promotion, humility, and the lesson she learned the hard way

Resources

* Growing by Donna Stuart — on YouTube

* Growing Book

* Donna Stuart Creative

* Instagram: @donnastuart

* Anonymous: Jesus in His Hidden Years by Alicia Britt Cholé

* Books by David Benner

* The Critical Journey by Janet O. Hagberg & Robert A. Guelich

Chapters

00:00 - Welcome and introduction to Donna Stuart's creative journey00:20 - Donna’s nostalgic story about "A Smoky Mountain Christmas" and childhood influences01:45 - The significance of seasons and waiting in creative growth02:58 - Personal revival during COVID and the impact on her understanding of love and creativity07:14 - The power of naming emotions and key turning points in spiritual and artistic journeys09:19 - Reflection on long-term projects, patience, and trusting the process13:09 - Donna’s latest project: a 10-year journey and the metaphor of seeds in darkness15:34 - Insights from children’s books and the importance of waiting on the “Useless Place”17:00 - The poetic process of her upcoming book about the underground seasons of growth18:29 - The story of creating a song for a Hallmark movie and trusting divine timing21:22 - The surprise of God's orchestration in unexpected collaborations and opportunities23:00 - The analogy of building Cowboy Stadium and technological breakthroughs in creative work26:34 - Embracing the cave as a place of renewal and deepening faith during difficulty29:58 - The journey of songwriting and the mystery of creative catch and release31:53 - The story of a chance connection leading to a meaningful project and unexpected moments of blessing40:16 - Finding resilience in the cave, understanding the seasons of life, and divine patience44:03 - Elijah, Ahab, and the small whisper—trusting God in the cave's quiet moments45:52 - The metaphor of underground roots and the rise of creative potential47:52 - The art of sharing: natural, organic, and rooted in love—overcoming the discomfort of self-promotion51:15 - Personal stories of youthful ambition, mistakes, and growth toward humility55:33 - The beauty of divine stories in our creative journey—trusting God's storytelling from seed to harvest58:44 - The modern realities of music industry and trusting divine timing59:44 - The importance of just saying “yes” and embracing the open unknowns60:53 - How to follow Donna’s work and stay connected through Instagram and her website61:24 - Closing thoughts—keep making, keep sharing, and trusting in the seasons of your creative story

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What does it look like when a gifted musician graduates with a piano performance degree, has his car repossessed, gets evicted, and can’t land a job?

In this episode of Make It. Share It. Kent and Cooper sit down with Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr., entrepreneur, producer, artist, teacher, and Associate Pastor at The Potter’s House, for a rich conversation about divine timing, creative seasons, and the kinds of conversations the creative community desperately needs to start having.

From being too broke to drive home to St. Louis, to turning down a full fellowship at NYU’s Tisch School of Arts, to hearing Bishop T.D. Jakes unknowingly preach the perfect sermon on his first day as a new hire, Dr. Oscar’s journey is a masterclass in trusting the process, especially when the process is painful.

He also shares what he’s making right now: a new podcast called Are You Okay?, a Good Friday musical theater production called Tell the Story coming to the Irving Arts Center on April 3rd, 2026, new music releasing under Oscar Williams & the Band of Life, and a creative consulting firm called Speak Life 3C.

🔑 Three Key Takeaways

* Being ‘too broke to go back’ can be God’s most precise positioning. Sometimes he holds you in the hard place long enough for the breakthrough to actually stick.

* The creative community is not talking enough about physical, mental, and financial wellbeing and that silence is costing us a generation of artists.

* The relationships and skills you build while serving someone else’s vision are never wasted. They become the infrastructure for your own dreams.

✨ Something Unexpected

Dr. Oscar was accepted into NYU’s Tisch School of Arts with a full fellowship, one of only two offered to 300 applicants from around the world, and turned it down. Find out why, and why he still keeps the acceptance letter.

🎧 Listen to the Full Episode For:

* The full story of Dr. Oscar’s worst year in Dallas — including a repossessed car, eviction, and the single conversation with God that changed everything.

* Why he was fired from a church in Atlanta on New Year’s Eve, and how that led directly to his role at The Potter’s House under Bishop T.D. Jakes.

* A behind-the-scenes look at his upcoming Good Friday musical theater production, Tell the Story, retelling the resurrection through the eyes of four women who encountered Jesus.

* His honest reflections on grief, overspiritualizing illness, and the financial patterns that keep creative people from building wealth.

* Why creatives need to make a budget and how coming in under budget can earn you an investor for life.

* When it’s time to stop building someone else’s dream and start betting on your own.

👤 About Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr.

Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr. is a pastor, entrepreneur, producer, artist, teacher, and leadership developer based in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. He serves as Associate Pastor of Music and Creative Arts at The Potter’s House under Bishop T.D. Jakes and leads Speak Life LLC, a creative coaching and consulting firm helping individuals and organizations build stronger teams and realize their biggest creative visions. His music is released under the name Oscar Williams & the Band of Life. He is also the creator of the forthcoming podcast Are You Okay?, dedicated to the physical, mental, and financial well-being of creatives.

🎨 What Dr. Oscar Is Making Right Now

* Are You Okay? Podcast — candid conversations with creatives about mental, physical, and financial health

* Tell the Story — a Good Friday musical theater production at the Irving Arts Center, April 3, 2026 (1 PM & 8 PM)

* New Music — upcoming single “Me and an Angel” releasing under Oscar Williams & the Band of Life

* Speak Life 3C — creative coaching and consulting for individuals, leaders, and organizations

🔗 Resources & Links

Follow Dr. Oscar Williams:

oscarworldwide.com

speaklifellc.com

Social media handle (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn): @OscarWorldwide

Music on Spotify & Apple Music: search Oscar Williams and the Band of Life

⏱ Chapter Timestamps

00:00 — Introduction & Welcome

01:14 — The Most Interesting Thing Dr. Oscar Has Learned Recently (Darkness, Light, and Ephesians)

03:33 — Turning Point: Moving to Dallas After His Father’s Death

07:00 — Rock Bottom in Dallas — Eviction, Repossession, and Rejected by Walmart

09:00 — The Church Audition That Was Already Closed (And How He Got the Job Anyway)

10:40 — When God Keeps You Too Broke to Go Home

13:38 — His Musical Background: Piano, Composition, and “Communicating” Through Song

15:30 — Part Two: The Atlanta Church, the NYU Fellowship, and Another Unexpected Turn

18:00 — Getting Accepted to NYU Tisch (Full Fellowship, One of Two) — and Saying No

20:00 — Getting Let Go on New Year’s Eve and What Bishop Jakes Preached His First Sunday

25:30 — What Dr. Oscar Is Making Now

27:00 — The Are You Okay? Podcast: Wellbeing for Creatives Nobody’s Talking About

29:00 — Tell the Story: A Good Friday Musical Theater Production (Irving Arts Center, April 3, 2026)

31:30 — Oscar Williams & the Band of Life + Speak Life 3C Consulting

33:00 — Grief, Over-Spiritualizing Illness, and Financial Stewardship for Creatives

39:00 — Knowing Your Identity Isn’t Based on What You Make

40:00 — The “Curse of the Creative” — From ‘This is the Best Thing I’ve Made’ to ‘Is This Even Good?’ in 48 Hours

43:00 — Retelling the Resurrection: Reimagining Judas, the Samaritan Woman, and Pastor J

46:00 — Building Community Before You Need It (And Discovering Who Wants to See You Win)

50:00 — Betting on Yourself vs. Faithfully Building Someone Else’s Dream

54:00 — Legacy Thinking: The Next 10-15 Years and Getting to That Beach

56:00 — Why Creatives Should Always Bring a Budget

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Join Kent and Coop as they sit down with 15-year-old actor, musician, and songwriter Graham Harvey in this inspiring conversation about navigating the entertainment industry while staying grounded.

From his new role in STRANGER THINGS to appearances in NIGHT AGENT, RABBIT HOLE, and CHICAGO PD, Graham shares candid insights about the creative life, the importance of staying connected to reality, and his journey as both an actor and musician.

This episode is a must-listen for young creatives, parents of aspiring artists, and anyone interested in the intersection of multiple creative pursuits.

🔑 THREE KEY TAKEAWAYS

Stay Grounded in Reality - Even at the height of success, maintaining "normal life experiences" keeps your creative work authentic and prevents life from feeling fake.

Embrace Multiple Creative Outlets - Pursuing both music and acting isn't a distraction—it's a way to feed different parts of your creative soul and bring fresh perspective to each discipline.

Trust the Process - From auditioning for STRANGER THINGS to landing roles in major productions, persistence and consistency matter more than instant success.

SOMETHING UNEXPECTED

Discover how Graham's experience on the set of Night Agent, combined with advice from the lead actor Gabriel Basso about working a "normal job" (he's a welder!), completely changed his perspective on balancing the extraordinary life of an actor with the importance of everyday experiences.

LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE FOR:

Graham's incredible story of booking STRANGER THINGS and the nerve-wracking wait to see if he made the final cut

Behind-the-scenes insights from working on major productions like NIGHT AGENT, RABBIT HOLE, and CHICAGO PD

The wild "HOME ALONE moment" of racing through O'Hare Airport to get home in time to watch his Chicago PD episode air

How Cooper's songwriting class helped Graham develop his musical voice

Why 90s grunge (Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam) resonates with a Gen Z artist

How Graham navigates rejection in the entertainment industry and keeps moving forward

RESOURCES & LINKS

Follow Graham Harvey:

Instagram: @instagrahamharvey

Graham's Projects Mentioned:

Stranger Things (Netflix) - Watch on Netflix

The Night Agent (Netflix) - Watch on Netflix

Rabbit Hole (Paramount+) - Watch on Paramount+

Chicago PD (NBC) - Watch on Peacock

CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Introduction & Congrats to Lauren on Storied Provisions launch

01:32 - Introducing Graham Harvey

02:00 - The 90s Music Question: Nirvana & Smashing Pumpkins

03:20 - Cooper's Backstage Nirvana Discovery Story

04:39 - Graham's Turning Point: Advice from Night Agent's Gabriel Basso

06:24 - Staying Grounded While Famous: The Counting Crows Documentary Story

08:06 - Starting with Movies: Graham's Recent Projects

09:18 - Landing the Stranger Things Role & The Audition Process

12:52 - The Nerve-Wracking Wait: Did He Make the Final Cut?15:45 - What It's Like to Be on the Stranger Things Set

20:10 - Comparing Different Production Experiences

23:30 - Balancing School and Acting Career

26:45 - The Creative Connection Between Music and Acting

30:15 - Cooper's Songwriting Class & Musical Development

35:20 - Writing Original Music: Influences and Process

38:50 - Handling Rejection in the Entertainment Industry

42:15 - Working on Night Agent with Gabriel Basso

46:31 - The Sharing Side: Release Day Nerves

46:51 - The Chicago PD "Home Alone" Airport Race Story

49:05 - The Baylor Connection: Derek Haas & Michael Brandt

50:48 - Closing Thoughts & How to Follow Graham

51:54 - Wrap-Up

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Kent, Cooper, and Lauren pull back the curtain on their own creative journeys in this one. From the five-year evolution of a coffee shop dream to navigating the harsh realities of independent filmmaking, this episode is a tribute to persistence, faith, and the messy beauty of bringing creative visions to life.

Discover how a fun conversation over homemade salsa became a thriving business partnership, why George Harrison of The Beatles financed a Monty Python film, and what it really takes to keep creating when the path forward isn’t clear.

🔑 Three Key Takeaways

Dreams have their own timeline. Surrender control but don’t stop believing. Lauren’s journey with Storied Provisions shows how a dream that didn’t come true in 2021 or 2023 finally came alive in 2024, when the timing was right and the right people appeared.

Share your work before it’s finished because other creatives are your greatest allies. From Monty Python getting funded by musician friends to indie filmmakers supporting each other, the episode reveals why bringing fellow creators into the process early is essential to getting things made.

The hardest part isn’t the creating. It’s the business of making it sustainable. The real challenge is navigating the practical realities while protecting your creative vision.

Something Unexpected

Find out how Monty Python couldn’t get funding in America for decades, and how George Harrison casually wrote a check for over $300,000 just because he “wanted to see the movie” after reading the script for Life of Brian the night before. Plus, discover why Hollywood comedies became less funny in the 2000s (hint: it has everything to do with the international market).

Listen to the full episode for:

The complete story of how Storied Provisions went from a Pinterest board and a back-pocket dream to a real coffee shop, bakery, and mercantile, including the divine appointments and speed bumps along the way.

Kent’s insights on the indie film journey for “One Night in a Thousand Years,” including the reality of applying for grants, self-funding, and why he’s choosing the independent route over studio deals.

Cooper’s revelations from seeing John Cleese live, including why movies stopped being funny and valuable lessons about creative persistence from comedy legends who couldn’t break into their market.

The importance of “Story Scripting” and defining your why before your where—a process that helped Lauren and her team stay focused on their original vision when new ideas and partners pulled them in different directions.

Practical encouragement for anyone in the middle of a long creative journey who’s wondering if they should keep going.

Resources

Storied Provisions Instagram: @storiedprovisionstx (Follow along as Lauren and Sarah bring this dream to life!)

Story Script Process: Connect with Kent Rabalais by replying to this email for guidance on clarifying your creative vision and staying on track with your dream project.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction - Catching Up on What We’re Making

00:49 Lauren’s Story: The Genesis of Storied Provisions

03:33 The Bridgeport Birthday and Finding Inspiration at the Table

06:23 Meeting with Sparrow Collective and Learning to Let Go

08:56 The Homemade Salsa That Changed Everything

10:01 Why Story Script Matters—Staying Centered on Your Vision

16:35 What Storied Provisions Actually Is (and Isn’t)

20:30 Learning to Trust Your Gut and Say No to Good Ideas

24:45 The Challenge of Making It Sustainable

28:20 Kent’s Update on “One Night in a Thousand Years”

35:15 The Reality of Independent Filmmaking

42:30 Cooper’s Night with John Cleese

47:00 Why Monty Python Couldn’t Break America

57:46 George Harrison and the Power of Creative Friendship

59:01 Why Movies Stopped Being Funny in the 2000s

01:01:05 Final Thoughts: Keep Fighting the Good Fight

If you’re in the middle of a creative dream that feels hard, impossible, or just unclear, this episode is for you. Subscribe to Make It. Share It. wherever you listen to podcasts, and join us as we learn what it really takes to make and share the things we’re called to create.

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On this episode of Make It. Share It. we sit down with author Brooke Ledbetter to discuss her new book Closer Than a Brother—an invitation to move from isolation into authentic, life-giving community.

Brooke opens up about the unexpected journey that led her to write about friendship, from a last-minute pitch pivot to discovering that friendships aren’t just for this life – they’re eternal. She shares candidly about:

* The turning point: A 2019 moment when obedience to God brought healing from severe depression

* Finding your creative calling: How writing became her path after acting dreams faded

* The hybrid publishing experience: Why Hope Books offered the perfect middle ground between traditional and self-publishing

* Overcoming the insecurity of self-promotion: Reframing how we share what we create

* Jesus as an actual friend: Using sanctified imagination to develop real friendship with Christ

* Why friendship matters eternally: Investing in relationships that transcend this life

Plus: Cooper goes off on platform culture, we discuss Pearl Jam’s “Yellow Ledbetter,” and somehow Sinbad’s McDonald’s bit makes an appearance.

If you’re a creative struggling with the courage to share your work, or someone longing for deeper community – this conversation is for you.

Resources

* Book: Closer Than a Brother by Brooke Ledbetter (foreword by Lauren Chandler)

* Connect with Brooke: Instagram @brooke.e.ledbetter

* Brooke’s Substack: Fox & Swallow

Chapters

03:33 The Pearl Jam “Yellow Ledbetter” connection

05:04 Brooke’s turning point: giving up something she loved and experiencing healing

08:19 The night-before-the-pitch moment when the book idea crystallized

16:38 Why having an editor is like having a music producer

22:20 The struggle with feeling like hybrid publishing was “cheating”

28:28 Dreams and Community Support

31:34 Overcoming Self-Doubt in Sharing Ideas

32:37 Taking the Leap: From Idea to Pitch

35:26 Discovering a Passion for Writing

38:35 The Importance of Trying New Things

45:07 Navigating Self-Promotion and Sharing Work

46:22 The main insight: friendship with Jesus as practice, not just theology

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What's inspiring us now: creative books, vintage music, and overcoming the lies that kill our art.

Three Key Takeaways

Stop reading books that feel like work. Cooper's current approach to books: ditch the business/self-help books that feel like trudging through mud. Use AI for 2-page summaries and focus your reading time on stories, characters, and creative narratives that actually spark ideas.

Your creative calling might not look like what you expected. Sometimes you're not meant to be Michelangelo with the blank marble—you might be the person who comes in at year two to help perfect the masterpiece. Finding your true creative role can be more fulfilling than chasing someone else's definition of success.

The lies we tell ourselves are often half-truths. "You should probably quit. You're not talented enough. No one's listening." Instead of dismissing these thoughts entirely, learn to work with the parts that might be true while rejecting the destructive conclusions.

Something Unexpected

Discover how going back to 60s and 70s music (with actual fret buzz left in the recordings!) can revolutionize your creative output, and why Cooper is writing his first TV pilot for an actor he hasn't spoken to in decades.

Listen to the full episode for:

* Book recommendations that will change how you think about creativity (including two fiction novels that will make you cry and see art differently)

* The collaboration vs. solo creation debate and why even introverts need creative partners

* Lauren's mysterious passion project that's been 4 years in the making (and you'll be able to visit it!)

* Cooper's brilliant strategy for getting past creative imposter syndrome

* Why your dad listening to your song every morning might be the only success metric that matters

Resources Mentioned

Books:

* My Friends by Friedrich Bachmann

* Theo of Golden by Allen Levi

* The Dream Giver by Bruce Wilkinson

* Platforms to Pillars by Mark Sayers

* The Second Mountain by David Brooks

Substack Post

* “You Should Probably Quit” by Craig Cunningham

Quote of the Episode: "I simply help people sit still long enough to see what is already there."

-Theo of Golden by Allen Levi

Chapters

* 00:00 What's inspiring us lately

* 03:10 Cooper's reading revolution

* 16:41 Collaboration vs. radical individualism

* 25:42 Creativity in crisis situations

* 30:51 The power of community in creative work

* 40:53 The lies we tell ourselves about our work

* 53:30 Current projects we're working on

Make It. Share It. is the podcast where creativity meets courage. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and join our community of creators who are brave enough to make something and generous enough to share it.

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In this episode of Make It Share It, Lauren Chandler shares the vulnerable journey behind her worship song "Praise Him," from initial inspiration to live recording.

Lauren wrote the song as a gift for her children—something they could carry throughout their lives to remind them to praise God in every season. What started as a simple lullaby-like melody evolved through multiple iterations, including a tough moment when she first shared the unfinished song with a group and battled her fear of not being "good enough."

We discuss the critical role of feedback and collaboration, including how Nathan Nockels helped unlock the final chorus, Michael Bleecker championed the song's potential, and Grant McCurdy encouraged the unique value of the live worship recording.

Lauren shares a powerful moment watching a grieving mother worship through the song's lyrics about praising God even when the harvest’s yield is lost. The episode concludes with Lauren connecting the song to A.W. Tozer's concept of "The Sacrament of Living"—that every creative moment can be an act of worship and priestly ministry.

Links To Resources Mentioned In The Show

The Pursuit of God

Adorning The Dark

Chapters

00:00 Intro

03:42 Inspiration and Creative Endeavors

06:31 The Birth of 'Praise Him'

09:08 Songwriting Process and Vulnerability

11:51 Feedback and Collaboration in Music

17:39 Recording and Releasing 'Praise Him'

20:29 The Impact of Music on Worship

23:04 Navigating the Music Industry

28:48 Embracing Authentic Worship Sound

30:40 The Value of Different Worship Models

32:20 Navigating the Inner Critic in Creativity

33:30 The Courage to Create and Share

40:26 The Evolution of Praise Him

44:49 Finding God in Everyday Moments

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Kyle Worley joins the Make It. Share It. crew for a conversation about the creative process.

Kyle is the Lead Pastor of Mosaic Church in Richardson, Texas, the author of the recent books "Home with God: Union with Christ" and “Formed For Fellowship,” and a co-host on the Knowing Faith podcast.

Hear how a college philosophy professor transformed his thinking, why he starts every project with a yellow legal pad and Sharpie, and the surprising challenges of writing children's books.

From his disciplined Friday afternoon writing routine (complete with jujitsu and protein shakes) to discovering characters in his John the Baptist fiction project, Kyle offers practical insights into balancing multiple creative projects. He also gets refreshingly real about the challenges of "sharing" versus "making" – and why he'd rather write than promote any day.

Whether you're wrestling with creative discipline, wondering about the role of formal training, or navigating the overwhelming world of book promotion, this conversation offers both encouragement and practical wisdom for the creative journey.

Creative Resource Referenced On The Show: Writing Down The Bones

*Edit - Must include a link to pre-order Kyle’s children’s book: “The Dragon Slayer and His Super Special Suit,” after all that dragon talk at the end!

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Creativity and Friendship

05:32 Turning Points in Life and Creativity

08:00 The Creative Process: Writing and Sharing

16:58 The Journey of Writing: From Inspiration to Execution

25:41 Creative Community and Collaboration

27:50 The Balance of Making and Discussing Creativity

30:47 Navigating Feedback and Honest Conversations

30:50 Exploring Fiction Writing

42:00 The Challenges of Sharing Creative Work

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In this episode of Make It. Share It., we discuss what happens when success comes knocking, but it's wearing the wrong shoes. We explore:

* The surprising story of Gregg Alexander and New Radicals, who broke up their band by press release after their hit single "You Get What You Give" topped charts

* How Alexander discovered that his true calling wasn't being a pop star, but creating music itself

* The different paths creative people take when fame doesn't match their expectations

* Stories of musicians like Gwen Stefani's brother who walked away from a successful band to pursue a different life

* The freedom that comes from creating for the right reasons, not just for acclaim

💡 Quote Worth Sharing: "The only reward I have ever felt at all is if someone else is inspired to go do something because of something I made."

Chapters

00:00 The New Radicals and Personal Connections to Music

02:44 The Impact of Fame and the Music Industry

05:45 Songwriting and the Art of Composition

09:11 The Dichotomy of Fame: Desire vs. Reality

12:13 The Stories of Artists Who Walked Away

15:17 The Journey of Creative Expression

18:14 The Struggles of Life on the Road

21:14 Reflections on Success and Artistic Integrity

24:57 The Artistic Struggle: Balancing Hits and Authenticity

28:05 Finding Purpose in Creation: A Christian Perspective

28:55 Inspiration as the True Reward

30:49 The Influence of Parental Expectations on Creativity

33:00 Hope Amidst Struggles: A Christian's Journey

34:11 What Works? The Dangers of Following Formulas

36:08 The Price of Fame: Lessons from Adam Duritz

40:10 Chasing Dreams: The Reality of Success

42:22 The Burden of Fame: A Reflection on Jesus

48:47 Creating for Joy: The Uplifting Message

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