In this episode I speak with Dr Justin Ariel Bailey, a prominent voice in Christian ministry and theological writing, Justin is a professor of theology at Dordt University in Iowa, and published a book, Interpreting Your World in 2022.

In this conversation we talk about the changing nature of worldview studies, and how to find the balance between an appreciative and critical approach when Christians engage with culture. We chat through the history of the term "worldview" and what it might mean to lead students in important conversations now.

This I got to sit down with Dr Rod Thompson and Dr Ken Dickens, a couple of men that have been a significant part of our network for a number of decades. Rod as the coordinator of biblical foundations and lecturer in the National Institute, and Ken serving for a stint as the CEO of the network, principal of the national institute, and in more recent years, a lecturer too.

Ken is part of a team that is putting together a history of our network to be released early next year, and I thought as part of the lead up to the book, I would sit down with him and Rod to get a sense of what it’s been like to have been part of the ongoing character and story of CEN. This is an extended episode because we cover a lot here, from the beginnings of the network including its underlying theological commitments, through to the growth phase, interactions with other groups and networks, and challenges looking forward. It was a really nice way to get a snapshot of what has made us who we are and capture something of these two guys as the pass on the baton.

This week I’m speaking to Diane Hockridge. Diane is an Australian educational designer and researcher, specialising in the design of online and distance-theological education, with a particular interest in spiritual and holistic formation of students. She is currently the Educational Designer at Ridley College in Melbourne and has a PhD in spiritual formation and online education.

In this conversation we discuss the challenges and opportunities of online education, focusing on supporting students through diverse learning experiences and leveraging their existing contexts. We talk authentic learning, service-based assignments and reflective practices to foster student growth. We also explore the future of theological education, considering the role of new technology and AI.

This week I’m joined by Dr. Maja Whitaker. Maja is a New Zealand-based theologian, academic, and ordained pastor. She’s currently the Academic Dean and a lecturer in Practical Theology at Laidlaw College in Christchurch, New Zealand. She pastors Equippers Church in Timaru alongside her husband, Dave, and is a mother to four daughters.

Maja’s research interests explore body theology, pastoral theology, spiritual formation, and disability theology. In this conversation we explore a lot of this, chatting through the resurrection and how to think through body ideals, how to think carefully about body difference, and how to let disability teach us.

This week I’m joined by Josh Taylor. Josh is an Anglican priest from the Diocese of Christchurch in New Zealand. He has experience in youth ministry, as a spiritual director, and several years as a Vicar in Timaru, New Zealand. He has just submitted a PhD through the University of Otago. His thesis is titled: “Speaking of Sin in 21st Century Aotearoa.”

It’s his PhD that I’m talking to him about today. We explore why sin can feel like a foreign and awkward concept these days and then track other ways people have tried to express it. We talk about big ideas like total depravity and original sin and try to build a picture of thinking about the concept that’s actually hopeful, especially in light of cultural approaches to morality. This is a really helpful chat to help guide young people in a world that is pretty confused about what sin is and how we see God.

In this episode I speak to Tony Golsby-Smith. Tony is the co-founder and chairman of Second Road, a strategy and innovation firm. He is also behind Gospel Conversations, a theological discussion group behind various events and with numerous online resources .

This conversation is a dense one, as we cover Tony’s journey through teaching into consulting, and then the relationship between Jesus, knowledge and reality. We talk about some of the inadequacies of some current evangelical theology and the nature of God’s work in the world. This is a challenging conversation but hopefully a stretching one too. I really enjoyed this conversation, and really appreciate the way Tony is searching for a theology that speaks to all of life. I’ve got a link for the Gospel Conversations website in below - it’s really worth getting involved with! He mentions an event with John Behr, which has already happened, but there’s video resource on the website that is well worth checking out.

https://www.gospelconversations.com

https://2nd-road.webflow.io

We kick off this new season with a return guest, the godfather of Christian education himself, David I. Smith. David is probably best known for his book, On Christian Teaching, and he’s just released a follow up to this, called Everyday Christian Teaching. This book is a more practical exploration of some of the concepts of the former book, and is full of suggestions for practices for the classroom, as well as powerful stories and reflection questions. CEN will be using his resources in a few different ways.

https://calvin.edu/everyday-christian-teaching

This episode is a bit different! A little while ago I got to speak with Tenielle Neda, a Christian singer songwriter from Western Australia. Tenielle has just released her new album, The Way of Love.

This chat is a chance to showcase some of her new music, but also talk about some of her journey, from appearing on Australian Idol, to making the music she does now. We talk through some of the songs, and talk about the role of worship music in context of the wider genre.

Check out her album here: https://open.spotify.com/album/27B6xYGSZ31DjV0XXqeerp?si=a7hjuXahR5KvNPf6R2ZKIw

https://www.tenielleneda.com

This week I get to speak to Dr Chris Marshall, a pioneering scholar working in the intersection of biblical theology and restorative justice. Chris has worked as a New Testament lecturer and lecturer in religious studies. He’s also worked with those involved in the criminal justice system and is the author of 7 books.

In this conversation we talk about restorative justice, shame, and atonement theology. A key point we hone in on, is that there is a variety of language and metaphors that get used in the New Testament to explain what was achieved on the cross, but often we can get stuck only using the judicial language of punishment, rather than all the other language like adoption or new birth. When we focus only on this language it can perpetuate cycles of shame.

This week I got to have a conversation with Mark Barnard, an Anglican priest and educator from Auckland, New Zealand. Alongside his church leadership role, Mark is also employed by the Karuwhā Trust, an educational organisation focusing on telling New Zealand’s bicultural story.

This is an important conversation that explores engaging in indigenous thought well, addressing different ways of seeing the world and approaching spirituality. This is a conversation about thinking this through in a New Zealand context, but perhaps that allows for more scope of thought rather than feeling like we’re being prescriptive. There are a couple of words that Mark uses quite a bit that might be helpful to know for the conversation- "Te Reo" refers to the Māori language, "tangata whenua" means “people of the land” and refers to Māori people, and "Pākehā" is the Māori word for those of European descent.