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Property vs shares. It’s one a big investing decision, and also an easy one to get stuck on.

In this Ask the Experts episode, we’re tackling a question that comes up all the time: should you invest in property or the sharemarket?

Frances Cook is joined by Katie Wesney from EnableMe to break down the real differences between property investing and sharemarket investing.

We get into:

– Is property still a good investment in New Zealand, or has the game changed?

– What people don’t realise about the costs, risks, and returns of rental property

– Why shares feel scarier, and how to get past that

– The rise of DIY investing, and what beginners need to know before jumping in

– How to choose between property and shares based on your goals (not someone else’s)

– Simple ways to get started, even if you’re feeling overwhelmed

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She used to think she was “bad with money.”

Now she’s a confident, and unapologetically unconventional, investor.

In this episode of Making Cents, Sophie Hallwright, co-founder of The Curve, is ready to unpack the messy path from financial self-doubt to building real confidence with money.

Before helping thousands of women learn about investing, Sophie learned the hard way.

This conversation digs into the reality behind that shift. The trial and error, the risks, and the lessons that actually stick.

Because for many people, getting “good with money” doesn’t come from following a perfect plan. It comes from trying, failing, and figuring out what works.

In this episode:

• The financial mistakes that shaped Sophie’s approach to money
• Lessons from investing in shares and property
• The reality of buying property with someone you met three weeks earlier
• What it’s really like to start a business with a friend
• Practical insights on building confidence and momentum with money

Listen to more from Sophie @thecurveplatform or anywhere you listen to podcasts.

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With power prices and fuel costs climbing, Frances Cook joins the TVNZ Breakfast team to break down who solar panels and electric vehicles actually make sense for and how to run the numbers yourself.

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A breakup doesn’t just end a relationship. It can blow up the entire financial plan you built together.

For many people in their 40s and 50s, that means suddenly having to make huge money decisions alone, about the house, retirement, and what rebuilding your life actually looks like from here.

In this episode of Ask the Experts, Will White from Heartland Bank is in the hot seat to help a listener facing exactly that situation.

After a 10-year relationship ends, our listener is trying to decide whether to buy their ex-partner out of the family home, sell and downsize, or walk away and start again somewhere new. The numbers are tight. The lifestyle trade-offs are real. And with retirement getting closer, the stakes feel higher than ever.

In this episode, Frances and Will cover:

• The biggest financial pressure points after a breakup in your 40s or 50s
• Whether buying out an ex-partner is a smart move, or a financial trap
• When selling and downsizing might actually put you in a stronger position
• The hidden financial risks of stretching your mortgage too far
• Lifestyle trade-offs: space, pets, privacy, and quality of life
• Whether getting a flatmate or AirBnB could make the numbers work
• How to rebuild financial stability when retirement is closer than you planned

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You can cancel subscriptions, ditch takeaway coffee, and trim your budget… but you still have to eat. And the way most of us shop for food? It’s costing us more than it should.

In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook talks to Michal Garvey, founder of Foodprint, the app that’s redirected millions of dollars’ worth of surplus food from cafés and restaurants into the hands of everyday Kiwis, at a fraction of the price.

But this isn’t just about cheaper meals.

Michal shares a different way to think about food, money, and the cost of living, including the common food budgeting mistake most people don’t realise they’re making, and why it’s leaving money on the table.

We also get into the link between your grocery bill and the survival of small businesses, how much food cafés are actually throwing away each year, and what that waste is really costing them.

Not to mention, what all of this says about New Zealand’s food system, supply chains, and long-term food security?

If you want to spend less on food, eat well, and understand what’s really driving food prices, this episode is for you.

In this episode, we cover:

• How to save money on food without cutting quality
• The biggest food budgeting mistake most people make
• How surplus food apps like Foodprint work
• Why cafés throw away so much food (and what it costs them)
• The link between cost of living and small business pressure
• What’s really going on with food supply and security in New Zealand

This episode of Making Cents is proudly supported by Odoo. Go to https://www.odoo.com/r/hpl now and try it for free, for 15 days.

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I spent $89,000 on solar power and an electric car… and it has a better return on investment than the sharemarket.

With electricity prices rising fast, more Kiwis are asking whether solar panels, home batteries, and electric vehicles are worth it.

So in this episode of the Making Cents podcast, I break down exactly what happened when I overhauled my home energy setup, including the real costs, the savings, and whether solar power in New Zealand actually stacks up financially.

In this episode, we cover:

• The true cost of installing solar panels and a home battery in NZ
• How much I’m saving on power (and why my bills are sometimes negative)
• Whether solar can actually make you money, or just save it
• How green loans (as low as 0–1%) can change the investment maths
• Why timing your power usage matters more than selling it back to the grid
• How to do this cheaper and smarter than I did

Plus, the practical realities, from power price trends to choosing the right system, avoiding common traps, and figuring out if solar is right for your home.

This isn’t a “go green” pitch. It’s a real-world breakdown of whether solar and EVs are a good financial decision, and how to make the numbers work in your favour.

If you’re trying to cut rising power costs, invest smarter, or future-proof your household expenses, this episode gives you the data and strategy to decide.

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A conflict in the Middle East is already showing up in Kiwi bank accounts, after sending shockwaves through the global economy.

From food to petrol, daily essentials are becoming more expensive. Interest rates and mortgages could be going up. The sharemarket, and therefore your KiwiSaver, is looking wobbly.

So what’s actually going on, and what should you do about it?

In this live Making Cents webinar, Frances Cook is joined by Infometrics economist Brad Olsen, Stuff Money editor Damien Venuto, and Kernel CEO Dean Anderson to break down what the Iran conflict could mean for your money.

We’re talking about:

• Why petrol, groceries, and everyday costs are under price pressure
• What rising energy prices can mean for inflation and interest rates
• Why sharemarkets often wobble during global crises
• And most importantly, how to make smart financial decisions in all these areas
• Because global events might be outside your control, but how you respond with your money, isn’t.

Join us live for a clear, practical conversation about what’s happening now, what could happen next, and how to protect your finances.

Emma Healey knows about financial transformation - she went from debt and financial stress to building passive income, investing, and designing a life that includes long-term family travel and early retirement goals.

Now known for her practical money advice at mumsmoney.co.nz, Emma didn’t get there through deprivation. Instead, she used behavioural finance strategies, including gamifying her debt payoff, to stay consistent and motivated.

In this conversation, she explains how she:

• Paid off $30,000 of debt using the debt snowball method
• Rewired her spending habits by replacing the dopamine hit of spending with saving
• Built savings and started investing, even on a modest income
• Transitioned from property investing to shares and index funds
• Designed a values-based money system that prioritises travel, family, and flexibility

Once the debt was gone, everything changed, not just financially, but mentally. Structure created freedom, and financial control opened up options.

That’s how Emma and her family were able to spend a year travelling through Europe, the US, and Southeast Asia, funded not by endless sacrifice, but by intentional money decisions.

This episode of Making Cents is proudly supported by Odoo. Go to https://www.odoo.com/r/hpl now and try it for free, for 15 days.

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As the Iran conflict keeps pushing up the costs of daily essentials, Frances Cook joins the TVNZ Breakfast team to talk about how you can save money on food, fuel, and even your KiwiSaver.

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Is politics about to derail your house buying plans?

With an election looming, talk of capital gains taxes, housing policy changes, and the possibility of government interference is everywhere. And if you’re trying to buy your first home, it’s enough to make you wonder… should you rush in, or wait it out?

In this episode of Ask the Experts, Frances Cook is joined by Vanessa Williams from http://realestate.co.nz to cut through the noise and focus on what actually matters.

We’re talking:

1. what election years have historically meant for the property market
2. why uncertainty can stall buyers (and when that can backfire),
3. what’s really happening in the property market right now, from supply levels to buyer behaviour
4. and what political announcements you should keep an eye on, because they could truly move the market.

Plus, the key policy changes worth paying attention to (and the ones that are mostly just headlines), including KiwiSaver rules, lending restrictions, and what a capital gains tax could realistically mean.

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