Jake and Nick sit down with another childhood friend, David Thompson, to talk about how their friendship has evolved over time, and how David is learning to deal with his trauma, form new connections in adulthood, and use those tools to break the generational trauma and be a good dad to his kids.

TW: Child abuse, mental health, stalking, relationship conflicts

Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini

Clips:

• May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications
• The Thing (1982)
• Ms. Rachel - "Learn About Emotions and Feelings"

Jake and Nick sit down with their childhood friend Jeff Sermons Jr. to talk about the history of their friendship. They discuss Jeff's struggles with mental health, how he forms connections, and how he's learned to manage his emotions into adulthood. Plus, they get into masculinity and how it's totally not about physical strength... probably.

TW: mental health, self-harm, death of a loved one, racism

Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini

Clips:

• May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications
• The Thing (1982)
• Ms. Rachel - "Learn About Emotions and Feelings"