It was a humbling night for Steve Cooper's Reds at the Etihad, where they were soundly beaten by the world's best coach, best striker, and then they brought the best midfielder off the bench. The key thing here is that City were just too good, but Forest's gaffer admitted afterwards that the away side were naive and there was much to learn.

Baz is joined by Tom Newton, fresh back from Manchester, to offer a post-mortem on the game. We also hear from Mike Passaris from the Perth De La Prem podcast, offering the Man City perspective. In an episode recorded before last night's transfer deadline, we also hear some thoughts on the rumours circulating around the City Ground.

Subscribe to 1865 via your podcast provider, and please leave a review, as it helps other Forest supporters find our content: Apple - Spotify - YouTube - Google. Join us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook or TikTok. 1865: The Nottingham Forest Podcast is part of the Sports Social Network, and proud to partner with FanHub.

Also, please nominate us for the Football Content Awards! Vote via the website in the category Best Club Content Creator – Premier League, or you can vote via Twitter!

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices