Mark Tooley is brings a wealth of real-world experience to his post as president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy and editor of IRD’s foreign policy and national security journal, Providence: A Journal of Christianity & American Foreign Policy. He worked eight years for the Central Intelligence Agency and is a graduate of Georgetown University. He founded UMAction, a subset of IRD. He is both author of and contributor to a number of books, including  The Peace That Almost Was: The Forgotten Story of the 1861 Washington Peace Conference and the Final Attempt to Avert the Civil War (2015). He has written for multiple publications you know the names of, like The Wall Street Journal and National Review. All this is to say that Mark is kind of a rock star, and yet one of the most approachable and faithful men  I know who is speaking into American politics and culture. Today we talk to him about Methodism, democracy, the rise of Christian nationalism and anti-semitism, and of course, about holiness.