March 09, 2025

Market Volatility and Value Investing: Uncertain Times with Dividend Growth Stocks HOUR 2 3-08-25

45 minutes

Market Volatility and Value Investing: Navigating Uncertain Times with Dividend Growth Stocks

Episode Overview: Market Volatility and Investment Strategy

In this episode of The Financial Hour, Tom Dupree and Mike Johnson discuss recent market volatility, high tech stock valuations, and why dividend growth investing may be a safer strategy for retirees in today’s economic environment.

🎧 Introduction: Market Bipolar Behavior and Valuation Concerns

Tom and Mike open the show and discuss the recent “bipolar” market behavior driven by headlines and uncertainty around tariffs. They explain that the market as a whole was “priced for perfection,” making it vulnerable to volatility when uncertainty arises.

“The market was really priced for perfection. And so you get any kind of uncertainty and the market’s going to have a knee-jerk reaction because, hey, this might not be perfect.” – Mike Johnson

Key points:

Markets have been experiencing significant volatility due to tariff concerns

Many sectors were priced for perfection, making them susceptible to downturns

Consumer retail stocks with exposure to China have been particularly hard hit

🎧 Recession Talk and Industry-Specific Downturns

The hosts discuss how recession predictions have repeatedly failed to materialize, though certain industries are experiencing their own recessions.

The Housing market has been in a recession with many real estate agents seeing their worst year in 20 years

Higher interest rates have significantly impacted mortgage originations

Many industries connected to housing (furniture, banking, mortgage) are affected

“If you’re a real estate agent and you depend upon commissions and your income’s down 50 percent or more… that’s a life-altering downturn.” – Tom Dupree

🎧 Tech Stock Valuation Concerns

Mike and Tom express concern about the high valuations of big tech stocks and how they’ve become viewed as “safe” investments despite their elevated prices.

Tech stocks with high valuations have experienced the sharpest corrections

Some major tech companies are down 15-20% from December highs

The NASDAQ has entered correction territory

“Big tech, the top seven, eight, nine, 10 companies in the S&P 500 had become almost like government bonds… Flight to safety. People would dumping money into those companies as though there were no risk at all.” – Tom Dupree

🎧 Howard Marks on Future Returns and Fixed Income

The hosts discuss insights from Howard Marks, co-chair of Oak Tree Capital, regarding future market returns and the comparative appeal of fixed income.

According to Marks, the S&P 500’s current P/E ratio of around 21 historically suggests returns between -2% and 2% over the next decade

AAA corporate bonds currently yield about 4.44%

10-year Treasury bonds yield about 4.25%

BBB-rated corporate bonds yield about 5.3%

“From the S&P 500, you’re not going to get the historic return of 10 percent a year for the next decade, you’ll get something less.” – Howard Marks (quoted by Mike)

🎧 The Case for Dividend Growth Investing

The hosts make the case for dividend growth investing as a compelling alternative to both broad market index funds and fixed income.

They highlight a company with a 6% dividend yield and consistent dividend growth

Dividend income typically receives more favorable tax treatment than interest income

Unlike bonds, dividend-paying stocks offer potential income growth to combat inflation

“The dividend growth has been consistent, very consistent… The share price is impacted by what’s going on in the market on a day-to-day basis, but that income stream has been very consistent.” – Mike Johnson

Key Takeaways

Current market volatility is largely driven by uncertainty around tariffs and high valuations

Specific sectors like housing and retail are already experiencing recession-like conditions

High-valuation tech stocks have become vulnerable after being treated as “safe” investments

According to Howard Marks, the S&P 500 may deliver significantly lower returns over the next decade

Dividend growth stocks may offer advantages over both broad market indexes and fixed income for retirees

Take Action Today

If market volatility has you concerned about your retirement portfolio, now is an ideal time to reassess your investment strategy. Contact Dupree Financial Group for a portfolio analysis that can identify risks and opportunities in today’s challenging market.

Call us at 859-233-0400 or schedule an appointment directly on our website at dupreefinancial.com.

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