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Two years after the October 7 massacre - the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust -Israel is still at war and Jewish communities worldwide are still grappling with its aftershocks. In this episode, Aviva sits down with historian, diplomat, and former Israeli Ambassador to Washington Dr. Michael Oren to reflect on how that day changed Israel, the Middle East, and the Jewish people.

As the second anniversary of October 7 arrives - and as we wait to see if the Trump peace plan takes hold - this episode offers a sober look at the past two years.

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The Holiest Hatred by Adam Louis-Klein

Are Politicians Who Talk About God Crazy? By Michael Oren