This week Leslie speaks with Trujillo, who survived years of human tracking, petty crime, and a mental illness in her family to give back to her community. Martha and Leslie talk about Martha' story, the underside of Orange County, and what being a parent means to her.

Hosted by Leslie Dobson.
Produced and edited by Liam Billingham.
Mixed by Aaron Dalton.

Executive producers are Paul Anderson and Scott McCarthy for Workhouse Media.

The views expressed in this podcast episode are solely those of the guest speaker and do not reflect the views of the host or the production company.

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