Mark Katharine Ham fancies herself a bit of a contrarian. She doesn't fit neatly into a bubble, whether politically or otherwise. And her unique perspectives and insights have propelled her to some incredible places. Whether it be Harvard, the University of Chicago Institute of Politics, or nowadays, CNN, Mary Katharine Ham has cultivated quite the resume and following. On today's podcast she joins Scott to talk about what the last few years have been like for her as a parent of young kids, and how she sticks out in today's media landscape. Join us now, for a little Hammer time!