HubSpot literally buried traffic as a metric last year. Not because they stopped caring about reach, but because in a world where AI systems deliver answers directly, the old playbook stopped working.

My guest today is Jennifer Lapp, Head of Growth Marketing for LATAM and DACH at HubSpot, where she's been rebuilding the growth engine from the ground up.

We'll dig into the real experiments she's been running, what's actually working and what isn't, and how she's steering her team through one of the biggest shifts in the marketing space ever.

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Lily Ray is one of the most respected voices in SEO. She even launched her own Substack recently to create a "safe space for ranting about all things SEO and AI Search".

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Malte is CPO & CMO at Peec AI, one of the leading AI search analytics platforms, and one of the brightest minds in the field. So I want to take all the news, new research and interesting developments and get his perspective on them.

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My guest in this episode is Saskia Sarışın, Head of Global SEO at Meltwater, one of the leading media intelligence platforms out there. We'll talk about how Saskia and her team have built up SEO at Meltwater, how she thinks about pillar and cluster strategies at serious scale, how she's navigating the shift toward AI search, and why she still believes in investing in top-of-funnel content, even when that's becoming an increasingly controversial take.

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00:00 Guest intro: Saskia Sarışın, Head of Global SEO at Meltwater

My guest in this episode is Tom Wells, AI Search Researcher at Peec AI. Tom has spent over a decade decoding ranking signals at companies like Semrush and Searchmetrics, and he recently published some fascinating research that got a lot of attention in the ecommerce SEO and AI Search world.

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My guest in this episode is Steve Toth, CEO of Notebook Agency and the voice behind AI Notebook and SEO Notebook, two newsletters with 27,000+ subscribers where he cuts through the noise in one of the fastest-moving spaces in marketing right now.

In this episode we'll dig into the current state of the industry, how big GEO is already for his agency and his clients and why he thinks ChatGPT is lazy and what he uses instead.

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Claude Cowork is replacing agencies. A Mac Mini is the new must-have for AI enthusiasts. And Bing just gave marketers something Google still hasn't. A lot has happened in the last weeks, so it’s time for a new episode of #MonthlyLandwehr.

Malte is CPO & CMO at Peec AI, one of the leading AI search analytics platforms, and one of the brightest minds in the field. So I want to take all the news, new research and interesting developments and get his perspective on them.

What we covered in this episode

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My guest today is Felix Welckenbach, Director of Product for Search and Discovery at HomeToGo, a marketplace where millions of travelers book their next dream vacation rental.

In this episode we’ll talk about how SEO is not a marketing function anymore at HomeToGo but a product capability, what this actually means like in the day to day, which companies should also think about making a similar change and why shouldn’t just measure your AI visibility but put more emphasis on the sentiment.

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This episode will be about AI. But not the ChatGPT kind of AI, but the building agents kind of AI. We’ll talk about what Alfred has been cooking over the last months, what FAFO really means (not just what the acronym stands for), and about this new kid on the AI block: OpenClaw.

If you want to understand where AI-powered marketing is actually heading, not the LinkedIn hype, but the messy, exciting reality of building stuff every single day, this is the conversation

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Repo: https://github.com/Pitcocy/niklas-podcast

The OpenClaw guy if you want to get inspired:https://x.com/AlexFinn

YouTube video with some extra context about setup:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GrG-dOmrLU

Use cases: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7r--i9lLck

OpenClaw website: https://openclaw.ai/

Their link to the repo, that you can use to feed to Claude during setup: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw

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Seven years ago, Nick LeRoy got fired. Today, he runs one of SEO's most trusted newsletters with over 12.5k subscribers, operates SEOjobs.com with over 200k annual sessions, and consults with enterprise brands on SEO strategy that actually moves the needle.

Nick is an independent SEO consultant who helps enterprise brands turn SEO into a revenue-generating channel, not just a traffic report. He's also the mind behind SEOjobs.com and PPCjobs.com, connecting talent with opportunities, and publishes the #SEOForLunch newsletter, read by everyone from enterprise SEOs to Google employees themselves.

What makes Nick different? He'll tell you the uncomfortable truths most consultants won't. Like why your 5k/month retainer probably isn't working. Or why "organic visibility captures demand; it doesn't create it." Or why SEO alone won't save a business with a shitty product.

Check out these links if you want to learn more about Nick's work:

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