Roopinder interviews friend John Schlag and explores John's journey from engineering to filmmaking. Initially trained as an engineer, John transitioned into computer graphics and special effects, working on iconic films like Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park. He later joined Google, contributing to Google Photos and Google Earth before leaving to pursue independent creative work.

John's passion for creativity extends beyond software, as he and his wife, Jennifer, now collaborate on short films. Their award-winning film, M.T. Nestor, delves into AI and creativity, reflecting John's ongoing interest in technology’s role in storytelling. Living on a floating home in Sausalito, he enjoys an unconventional (for an engineer) lifestyle, balancing filmmaking, travel and writing, even writing code occasionally.

The discussion highlights John's diverse interests, from his early music career to his thoughts on AI in the arts. His journey showcases a seamless blend of technical expertise and artistic exploration, emphasizing the intersection of engineering and creativity.