Summary

• Introduction and Background of Complex

◦ Mattsuuii introduces the episode and guest, Complex, a hip hop artist from Long Beach now residing in the Inland Empire, California.

◦ Complex introduces himself, mentioning his nomadic upbringing, moving between Long Beach, Texas, and the Inland Empire.

◦ Complex discusses his upbringing, mentioning his parents' influence and his juvenile record, which is sealed due to minor offenses.

◦ Suuii shares his own experiences with the law, including a wrongful conviction for manslaughter and multiple shootings and stabbings.

• Early Influences and Writing Skills

◦ Complex talks about his early interest in writing, starting with poetry in seventh grade, and his natural talent for reading and wordplay.

◦ Matt shares his background, mentioning his father's influence as a songwriter and his own early interest in music, inspired by the rock band Rush.

◦ Both discuss their extensive knowledge of literary devices and their dedication to mastering wordplay and lyricism.

◦ Complex mentions his late start in releasing music and his preference for organic promotion over viral fame.

• First Projects and Collaborations

◦ Complex discusses his first project, "Insane Clinical," released about 12 years ago with a group called Altered Minds.

◦ Suuii shares his experience starting his own record label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment, and his collaborations with artists from various countries.

◦ Complex talks about his collaborations with local and international artists, including a song with Krizz Kaliko and various other collaborations.

◦ Both discuss their experiences with engineering and production, with Mattsuuii offering his expertise in sound engineering.

• Views on Rap vs. Hip Hop

◦ Suuii asks Complex about his views on the difference between rap and hip hop.

◦ Complex describes rap as a secondary art form, often driven by commercial success, while hip hop is the original culture, encompassing dance, beatboxing, and more.

◦ Both agree that true hip hop evokes emotions and tells stories, while rap is often more about making money.

◦ Complex mentions his upcoming project, "Members Only," aimed at true hip hop fans who appreciate the art form.

• Defining True Artistry

◦ Mattsuuii asks Complex about his definition of true artistry.

◦ Complex emphasizes the sacrifice and dedication to the craft, mentioning artists like Nas, Big Daddy Kane, and Tupac as examples of true artistry.

◦ Both discuss the importance of authenticity and emotional connection in true artistry, whether in music or other forms of art.

◦ Complex mentions his upcoming project, "Members Only," as an example of his commitment to true hip hop.

• Collaboration and Future Plans

◦ Suuii and Complex discuss potential collaborations, with Matt offering to write and produce tracks for Complex.

◦ Complex mentions his busy schedule as a full-time father, husband, and entrepreneur, but expresses interest in future collaborations.

◦ Both discuss their shared love for custom jerseys.

◦ Complex shares his social handles and email for future collaboration and mentions his upcoming projects and collaborations.

Summary

• Introduction and Background of Keys Two Times

◦ Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and features Kese2x, also known as Marquis Moore from South Carolina.

◦ Kese introduces himself, mentioning his creative process and influences from artists like Young Thug, Gunna, and Kevin Gates.

◦ Matt shares his background, mentioning his work with Sony and his influences from artists like Eminem, Tech N9ne, and Mac Dre.

Suuii reveals that he wrote a song for Kevin Gates and expresses his desire to collaborate with 2x

• Mattsuuii's Musical Journey and Achievements

◦ Mattsuuii details his early musical influences, including his father, who was a singer-songwriter, and his mother, who almost got a record deal.

◦ He shares his experience of being a registered poet at 15 and a college-educated music producer and sound engineer.

◦ Matt discusses his work with Sony Universal and his new gig as a main sound engineer at a multi-million dollar studio outside San Francisco.

◦ Kese2x expresses admiration for Matt Sue's achievements and background in the music industry.

• Kese2x' Upbringing and Musical Beginnings

◦ Matt asks Kese about his upbringing and how it influenced his entry into the music industry.

◦ Kese shares his background from Lake City and Florence, South Carolina, and how music has always been a part of his family.

◦ He mentions starting to write music in 2018 and releasing his first music in 2022-2023.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his own background, including his time in juvenile hall for manslaughter and how music helped him stay out of trouble.

• Challenges and Inspirations in Music

◦ Kese talks about the challenges he faced, including being shot three times before turning 17 and dealing with family issues.

◦ Matt shares his own experiences, including being shot and dealing with a violent and addicted father.

◦ Both discuss how music has been a source of motivation and a way to express their experiences and emotions.

◦ Kese2x mentions his first project, "In Motion," and his influences, including artists like Migos and LL Cool J.

• Defining True Artistry and Rap vs. Hip Hop

◦ and 2x discuss the difference between rap and hip hop today, with Matt emphasizing the importance of evoking emotions.

◦ They define true artistry as being versatile and able to create across different genres, with Matt highlighting his own work in various styles.

◦ Kese2x shares his belief in creating his own music without outside help, while Mattsuuii discusses his experience ghostwriting for other artists.

◦ Both express their respect for true artistry and the importance of staying true to their own creative processes.

• Upcoming Projects and Collaborations

◦ Kese talks about his upcoming projects, including new music and visuals, and mentions working on an album starting in January.

◦ Suuii shares his recent release of an EP and plans for a 21-track LP, which he plans to push back slightly due to his production work for other artists.

◦ They discuss the possibility of collaborating, with Matt offering to send 2x some beats for free.

◦ Kese2x expresses interest in collaborating and mentions his independent status and the importance of maintaining control over his music.

• Independence vs. Major Labels

◦ Mattsuuii and Kese discuss the pros and cons of signing with major labels versus staying independent.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his experiences with distribution deals and the importance of keeping ownership of his masters.

◦ They discuss the example of Russ, who has been successful independently, and the importance of maintaining creative control.

◦ Kese2x expresses his preference for staying independent and the importance of not selling his soul for money or contracts.

• Final Thoughts and Shoutouts

◦ Matt and Kese wrap up the conversation, with Suuii expressing his admiration for Kese2x' talent.

Summary

• Introduction and Background

◦ Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and guest, Darnell Bolton, also known as EMO from Fort Worth, Texas.

◦ EMO, Darnell Bolton, introduces himself and mentions his love for music and Texas.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his location in Redding, California, and asks about Darnell's upbringing.

◦ Darnell describes his musical influences from his family, including classical music, 1980s music, hip hop, R&B, and gospel.

• Musical Journey and Early Projects

◦ EMO shares his early musical experiences, including singing with his father and attending the same high school as Kirk Franklin.

◦ He then mentions his big break on American Idol, where he performed as the "Jigglypuff" guy, earning 2.1 million views.

◦ Suuii shares his own musical journey, including founding a record label and being a college-educated music producer and sound engineer.

◦ Matt discusses his early writing and publishing success, including selling songs to a band and becoming a published poet.

• Influences and Writing Style

◦ Darnell talks about his writing journey, starting with poetry at age 12 and transitioning to songwriting.

◦ Both speakers discuss their influences, including Chester Bennington and Neil Peart from Rush.

◦ EMO shares his love for rock music and his admiration for Chester Bennington's professionalism.

◦ Mattsuuii mentions his inspiration from Neil Peart and his early experiences with classic rock music.

• Current Projects and Collaborations

◦ Darnell discusses his current project, an EP album tentatively titled "Emoshunall," reflecting his emotional journey.

◦ Suuii shares his upcoming album with 21 tracks, set to release on New Year's Eve, and his need for singers for some hooks.

◦ EMO expresses his interest in collaborating with Matt and working on different genres.

◦ Suuii mentions his experience making beats and his recent success in making $17k from one beat.

• Defining Artistry and Genre Differences

◦ Mattsuuii and Darnell discuss the difference between rap and hip hop, with Matt emphasizing rap's focus on mainstream themes and hip hop's emotional depth.

◦ EMO explains the evolution of rap from gangster rap to more emotional and personal themes.

◦ Both speakers share their definitions of true artistry, with Darnell highlighting the importance of business knowledge in addition to musical talent.

◦ Mattsuuii emphasizes the emotional impact of artistry, comparing it to the work of painters and sculptors.

• Upcoming Releases and Personal Beliefs

◦ EMO announces his new single "Cowboy" and plans for a music video in January, his birthday month.

◦ Matt asks about Darnell's religious beliefs and whether he believes music is part spiritual.

◦ Darnell expresses his belief in music's spiritual aspect but also his openness to all genres of music.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his preference for old-school country music and his admiration for artists like Merle Haggard and Johnny Cash.

• Closing Remarks and Shoutouts

◦ Mattsuuii asks EMO to choose a song to play at the end of the podcast.

◦ Darnell selects his song "Cowboy," and Matt plays it for the audience.

◦ Darnell thanks his team, including his sound engineer, management, and streaming platforms, for their support.

◦ Mattsuuii asks for Darnell's social media handles and plans to send him some tracks for collaboration on his upcoming album.

Summary

• Introduction and Guest Background

◦ Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and the guest, a multi-faceted talent in graphic design, production, and artistry.

◦ Charteves Drew shares his background, mentioning his hard work and dedication to his career.

◦ Suuii talks about making shirts with Drew and the importance of making shirts that are versatile and appealing.

◦ Both speakers discuss their love for Jordan and Nike shoes, and the customization options available.

• Discussion on Music and Production

◦ Mattsuuii asks Chartaves about his music projects and any songs he has on YouTube.

◦ He talks about his journey in producing music, starting in high school and using various tools like FL Studio and Logic Pro.

◦ Suuii shares his experience with different DAWs and the challenges of working with different file formats.

◦ Charteves mentions working with various artists and the impact of his work on their careers.

• Collaborations and Mentorship

◦ Mattsuuii offers to be a mentor to Drew, sharing his experience and knowledge.

◦ Charteves talks about his collaborations with artists like Queen Nero and the success of their projects.

◦ Matt shares his own experiences with collaborations and the importance of having a unique style.

◦ Both speakers discuss the potential for future collaborations and the importance of networking in the music industry.

• Personal Stories and Inspirations

◦ Mattsuuii shares personal stories from his life, including his struggles with his father and the impact on his music.

◦ Suuii talks about a song he wrote called "Shadows Don't Last" and its significance.

◦ Charteves shares his own experiences and the lessons he learned from his father.

◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of storytelling in music and the emotional impact it can have on listeners.

• Future Projects and Aspirations

◦ Suuii talks about his upcoming projects and his involvement with major record labels.

◦ Drew shares his aspirations of becoming a father and the importance of being a good husband and father.

◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of having a supportive family and the impact of their upbringing on their careers.

◦ Charteves mentions his plans to produce more music and collaborate with more artists.

• Social Media and Contact Information

◦ Mattsuuii asks Charteves for his social media handles and contact information.

◦ Charteves provides his social media handles and mentions his online clothing store.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his own social media handles and information about his website, way2guudent.com

◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of staying connected and the potential for future collaborations.

• Final Thoughts and Shoutouts

◦ Suuii thanks Drew for being on the show and acknowledges his talent.

◦ Drew expresses gratitude for the opportunity and thanks various people who have supported him.

◦ Both speakers share shoutouts to their friends, family, and other artists they have worked with.

◦ Mattsuuii mentions his plans to promote other artists and the importance of supporting the music community.

Summary

• Real G's Background and Influences (0:00)

◦ The host Mattsuuii introduces Real G, also known as Alex Wapala, who is 36 years old, born in Egypt, and raised in New York, specifically Westchester County.

◦ G shares that he moved to the States at one year and a half and lived in Cairo for a year and a half.

◦ Mattsuuii expresses a desire to visit Egypt and asks about Real G's upbringing in New York and his introduction to hip hop.

◦ Real G mentions being influenced by rap from the ages of six to nine, with favorite rappers like DMX, Biggie, and Nas, and a preference for lyrical rappers.

• Mattsuuii's Musical Inspirations and Style

◦ Mattsuuiibdiscusses his West Coast influences, particularly Mac Dre, and his admiration for East Coast rappers like Wu-Tang Clan, Royce da 5'9", and Joell Ortiz.

◦ Real G and Matt both express admiration for Eminem, with Suuii sharing a YouTube link to an acapella freestyle by Eminem.

◦ Mattsuuii praises Eminem's wordplay and freestyling skills, describing him as the Rap God.

◦ The conversation touches on other influential rappers like Tech N9ne and Snoop Dogg, with Suuii sharing stories about Tech N9ne's success and his own collaborations with Tech N9ne's associates.

• Real G's Musical Journey and Influences

◦ Real G talks about his older brother influencing him to rap and teaching him the 16-bar formula and metaphors.

◦ Matt shares his early musical journey, starting at six years old with a rock band named Rush as his biggest inspiration.

◦ Mattsuuii describes the impact of hearing Rush's song "Tom Sawyer" and his subsequent decision to start writing lyrics.

◦ The conversation shifts to the spiritual aspect of music, with Real G asking if music is spiritual, and Suuii affirming it can be.

• Real G's Musical Projects and Messages (12:34)

◦ Real G discusses his current project, a mix tape/album called Project 2025, available on SoundCloud and Bandcamp, and his mission to challenge the status quo in rap.

◦ He emphasizes the importance of lyrics, storytelling, and metaphors in his music, with a song called "Can't Rewrite History" addressing the erasure of history.

◦ Suuii showcases his lyrical skills by spitting bars and discussing the definition of lyricism.

◦ Real G shares a bar from his song "Can't Rewrite History," highlighting his message of unity and financial empowerment.

• Mattsuuii's Lyrical Skills and Musical Influences

◦ Suuii continues to showcase his lyrical skills, sharing more bars and discussing the complexity of his lyrics.

◦ Real G appreciates the depth and creativity in Mattsuuii's lyrics, comparing it to his own song "Solid," which compares the Statue of Liberty to a woman.

◦ Mattsuuii discusses the importance of vocabulary and studying the dictionary, which influenced his early writing.

◦ The conversation touches on the difference between rap and hip hop, with both agreeing that hip hop evokes emotions and invokes deeper thought.

• Defining Artistry and Future Projects

◦ Real G defines artistry as having a vision and message, emphasizing the importance of having more than one hit.

◦ Matt expands on the definition of artistry, describing it as the ability to create something that can be visualized and felt by the audience.

◦ Real G talks about his future projects, including promoting Project 2025 and working on a new album called New Generation.

◦ Mattsuuii offers to create an album cover for Real G's new project and discusses the possibility of producing and engineering the entire album.

• Collaboration and Final Thoughts

◦ Suuii offers to produce and engineer Real G's entire album, including mixing and mastering, for a flat fee of $1200.

◦ Real G expresses interest in collaborating with Mattsuuii and discusses the quality of his recordings, which are currently done on Bandlab.

Summary

• Introduction and Backgrounds

◦ Mattsuuii introduces the show and mentions a guest producer from Sacramento, California.

◦ Raspy On Tha Beatz shares his background, mentioning he is originally from North Carolina but has been in Sacramento since 2001.

◦ Raspy has been producing music for over 10 years and has worked with various artists, including Lazie Bone from Bone Thugs-n-Harmony and San Quinn.

◦ Suuii shares his educational background, mentioning he has degrees in music production and sound engineering.

• Educational Backgrounds and Industry Insights

◦ Matt discusses the importance of college credentials in the music industry.

◦ Raspy mentions his own experience with licensing and a placement on Tyler Perry's TV show "The Haves and the Have Nots."

◦ Mattsuuii talks about his interactions with a marketing strategist named Sauce, who requires a subscription to his YouTube channel for access to resources.

◦ Both speakers discuss the challenges and opportunities in the music industry, including the importance of sync licensing.

• First Projects and Collaborations

◦ Raspy shares details about his first significant project with Big Ole Easy and the recognition it brought him in Northern California.

◦ Suuii expresses interest in hearing Raspy's work and mentions his own upcoming projects, including a fifth album and a collaboration with an artist named Rob Don.

◦ Raspy talks about his current projects, including a beat tape and ongoing work with various artists.

◦ Both speakers discuss the potential for a collaborative project, with Raspy offering to share his contacts and resources.

• Defining Rap and Hip Hop

◦ Mattsuuii asks Raspy to differentiate between rap and hip hop.

◦ Raspy emphasizes the importance of storytelling and versatility in hip hop, contrasting it with the more straightforward nature of rap.

◦ Suuii agrees, stating that hip hop evokes emotions and can have a profound impact on listeners.

◦ Both speakers discuss the commercial success of rappers versus the struggles of real hip hop artists.

• Personal Stories and Artistry

◦ Mattsuuii shares a personal story about his difficult childhood, including abuse from his father and homelessness with his mother.

◦ He discusses how his experiences have influenced his music, including a song called "Shadows Don't Last."

◦ Raspy expresses interest in hearing Speaker 1's music and shares his own definition of artistry as something that comes from the soul and evokes emotions in others.

◦ Both speakers agree on the importance of authenticity and emotional connection in art.

• Future Plans and Collaborations

◦ Mattsuuii outlines his future plans, including releasing a new album and collaborating with various artists.

◦ Raspy mentions his ongoing projects and potential collaborations with other producers and artists.

◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of staying connected and supporting each other in the industry.

◦ They agree to exchange contact information and start working on their collaborative project.

• Closing Remarks and Shoutouts

◦ Suuii and Raspy express their gratitude for the opportunity to collaborate and share their music.

◦ They discuss the importance of staying connected and supporting each other in the industry.

◦ Mattsuuii mentions his plans to publish the episode and send Raspy some beats for remixing.

◦ Both speakers share shoutouts to their friends, family, and supporters, expressing their appreciation for their support.

Summary

• Introduction and Background of Participants

◦ Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and welcomes Harry, also known as the Ice King, a 31-year-old artist from Detroit, Michigan.

◦ Iceking, Harry, introduces himself, mentioning his family and friends from Detroit.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his background, detailing his upbringing in a poverty-stricken family with an abusive father and a gambling mother.

◦ Mattsuuii describes the harsh living conditions, including sleeping in a car and dealing with drug-filled environments.

• Early Influences and Writing Journey

◦ Matt talks about his early interest in rock music and how he started writing lyrics at six years old.

◦ He shares his experience of being in juvenile hall and how it influenced his transition to hip hop.

◦ Mattsuuii describes his process of studying the dictionary and building a vast vocabulary, which he uses in his lyrics.

◦ He mentions his extensive knowledge of literary devices like analogies, metaphors, and homophones.

• First Projects and Record Label

◦ Suuii asks about Harry's first solo project, which he dates back to 2012.

◦ Mattsuuii talks about his record label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment, which he founded in 2013.

◦ He mentions having five artists signed to his label from various countries, including Nigeria and Australia.

◦ Harry discusses his collaboration with producers and the streams he receives from international listeners.

• Challenges and Personal Experiences

◦ Iceking shares his experience of being shot multiple times and how it changed his perspective on life.

◦ Mattsuuii talks about his own experiences with violence, including being shot at 13 and becoming a leader in a gang.

◦ They discuss the impact of their past on their current mindset and approach to life and music.

◦ Iceking emphasizes the importance of using one's talent and not wasting it.

• Differences Between Rap and Hip Hop

◦ Suuii explains his view on the difference between rap and hip hop, emphasizing the emotional depth and storytelling in hip hop.

◦ Iceking agrees, mentioning that he doesn't rap the same as others and prefers Detroit beats.

◦ They discuss the evolution of their styles and the influence of their environments on their music.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his admiration for Tech N9ne and the concept of constant energy struggles in life.

• True Artistry and Business Approach

◦ Suuii defines true artistry as the ability to evoke emotions and tell stories through music.

◦ Iceking talks about his business approach, emphasizing the importance of being an independent artist.

◦ They discuss the challenges of working with major record labels and the benefits of maintaining independence.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his experience as a ghostwriter and the importance of maintaining creative control.

• Upcoming Projects and Collaborations

◦ Matt asks about Harry's upcoming projects, and he mentions working on new clothing lines.

◦ Mattsuuii talks about his new shirts and his ongoing work on beats and songs.

◦ They discuss a song with an open verse that Suuiiis challenging other artists to contribute to.

◦ Mattsuuii mentions his upcoming 21-track LP and the importance of meeting deadlines.

• Technical Difficulties and Final Thoughts

◦ Mattsuuii and Iceking experience technical difficulties while trying to share music links.

◦ They apologize to the listeners for the inconvenience and express gratitude for their patience.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his experience of running a successful podcast and the importance of investing in oneself.

◦ Ice and Suuii discuss the importance of networking and supporting each other in the music industry.

Summary

• Mikey Bon3z Background and Introduction

◦ Mattsuuii introduces Mikey Bon3z, highlighting his roles as a producer, songwriter, and artist.

◦Bon3z mentions his label, Dope Fiend Music, and his work with various artists.

◦ Mikey Bon3z shares his upbringing in Fresno, California, describing it as rough and mentioning his father leaving him at a young age.

◦ He discusses the influence of his surroundings and his decision to pursue music as a way to escape a life of crime.

• Creation of Slam Music

◦ Mikey Bon3z explains the concept of Slam music, a genre he created that combines elements of grind, hardcore, trap drums, dark ambient soundscapes, and hip-hop lyrics.

◦ He compares Slam music to other genres that have mixed metal and rap, such as Public Enemy and Rage Against the Machine, but emphasizes its unique complexity and heaviness.

◦ Suuii praises Mikey for creating his own genre and asks for more details about his upbringing.

◦ Mikey Bon3z shares more about his mother, Barbara Jean Clark, and the challenges they faced growing up in a violent and drug-ridden environment.

• Mattsuuii"s Personal Story

◦ Matt shares his own traumatic upbringing, including abuse from his father and his mother's addiction to gambling.

◦ He describes the extreme poverty and homelessness his family faced, including sleeping in their car during the winter.

◦ Suuii recounts his early involvement in crime, including cooking crack cocaine, packing guns, and being shot multiple times.

◦ He discusses his time in juvenile hall and his eventual transition to boxing, where he became a champion and earned a spot on the U.S. team.

• Mikey Bon3z Early Music Projects

◦ Bon3z talks about his first music project, "Frequency Rapture," which combined minimal hip-hop beats with samples from Alex Jones and David Icke.

◦ He explains how he got into music production by watching YouTube tutorials and quickly realized he had a talent for it.

◦ Mikey Bon3z shares his influences, including classic rock, the Beastie Boys, and Rage Against the Machine.

◦ Mattsuuii and Mikey discuss their shared love for hip-hop and their favorite artists, including Wu-Tang Clan and Naughty by Nature.

• Influences and Artistry (5:21)

◦ Mikey Bon3z and Suuii discuss the differences between rap and hip-hop, with Mikey Bon3z emphasizing hip-hop's cultural and artistic aspects.

◦ They talk about the evolution of hip-hop and the impact of artists like Rick Rubin and Dr. Dre on the genre.

◦ Mikey defines artistry as the ability to convey thoughts, philosophies, and emotions through music.

◦ Mattsuuii shares his own definition of artistry, emphasizing its role in evoking emotions and creating a deeper connection with the audience.

• Mikey Bon3z Upcoming Projects (43:26)

◦ Mikey Bon3z discusses his upcoming projects, including his debut album "Skip the Phoenix" and a mini audio movie that accompanies it.

◦ He describes the storyline of the album, which follows a schizophrenic character named Mikey Bones who goes on a murder spree.

◦Bon3z talks about his second album, "Chemical Saints," and its themes of representing the marginalized and forgotten in society.

◦ He shares his vision of creating audio movies for every album release to enhance the listener's experience.

• Mikey Bon3z Songwriting and Production Skills (46:58)

◦ Mikey showcases his songwriting and production skills by playing his tracks "Brutal Crucifix" and "Vaporwave Lover."

◦ Mattsuuii praises Mikey Bones' creativity and technical skills, noting the complexity and depth of his lyrics and beats.

◦ Mikey Bon3z explains his process of creating music, including writing, producing, and engineering everything himself.

◦ They discuss the importance of storytelling in music and how Mikey Bon3z uses his experiences to create unique and impactful songs.

Summary

• DJ Loot's Introduction and Background (0:00)

◦ Matt Sue introduces DJ Loot, a music producer from Oroville, California, currently residing in Sacramento.

◦ DJ Loot shares his background, mentioning his establishment in Northern California for over two decades, producing various genres including hip hop, pop, and R&B.

◦ DJ Loot discusses his upbringing, mentioning that his grandparents raised him and he had a normal life with scholastic advantages.

◦ He talks about starting with the saxophone in the school band and later studying Recording Arts at Chico State, which formalized his music production skills.

• Matt Sue's Background and Personal Struggles (2:58)

◦ Matt Sue shares his background, mentioning his early involvement in music and his label, Way Too Good Entertainment.

◦ He discusses his time in juvenile hall for a crime he did not commit, which involved a manslaughter charge and overdose deaths related to pills he sold.

◦ Matt Sue talks about his abusive father and his mother's coping mechanisms with gambling and loan sharks.

◦ He describes the hardships he faced growing up, including living in a 1982 Nissan Sentra and sleeping under a bridge with his family.

• Matt Sue's Musical Journey and Inspirations (4:46)

◦ Matt Sue explains how he turned to music to get off probation and how his brother introduced him to hip hop.

◦ He mentions his early influences, including Rush and their drummer Neil Peart, and how they inspired his songwriting.

◦ Matt Sue discusses his experience in juvenile hall, where he started freestyling and eventually fell in love with hip hop.

◦ He shares his journey of getting degrees in music production and sound engineering, which helped him build his brand.

• DJ Loot's Early Music Production and Inspirations (8:56)

◦ DJ Loot talks about his early DJing experience with rave music and his transition to hip hop.

◦ He mentions his influences, including 2 Live Crew, Ice-T, and Naughty by Nature, and how the late 90s saw a surge in rap artists.

◦ DJ Loot describes his early attempts at beat making with basic equipment and how he improved with time and feedback from dedicated hip hop heads.

◦ He shares his experience of producing and mixing albums for various artists, including San Quinn and Hollow Tip.

• Collaborations and Industry Experience (13:56)

◦ DJ Loot discusses his collaborations with big-name artists, including San Quinn, Hollow Tip, and Mr. Fab.

◦ He mentions his work with Sony Records and Universal, and how he signed NDAs for unreleased songs.

◦ DJ Loot talks about his experience of producing and mastering entire catalogs for artists and his ongoing projects.

◦ Matt Sue expresses interest in collaborating with DJ Loot and shares his own music and beats.

• DJ Loot's Radio Show and Future Plans (21:24)

◦ DJ Loot talks about his radio show, which started as an internet-only platform and later moved to Ozcat 89.5 FM in Vallejo.

◦ He explains the format of his show, which includes live interviews and playing local and regional music.

◦ DJ Loot mentions his plans to continue expanding his skills and genres, including EDM and house music.

◦ Matt Sue and DJ Loot discuss potential collaborations and future projects, including a possible compilation album.

• Defining True Artistry and Hip Hop vs. Rap (25:34)

◦ Matt Sue and DJ Loot discuss their definitions of true artistry, emphasizing the ability to evoke emotions and resonate with the audience.

◦ They debate the differences between hip hop and rap, with DJ Loot arguing that rap is an element of hip hop.

◦ Matt Sue expresses his view that rap is often watered down and lacks the depth and storytelling of true hip hop.

◦ They both agree on the importance of skill and message in rap and hip hop.

Summary

• Introduction and Background of Don Martin (0:00)

◦ Speaker 1 introduces Martin Si Fuentes, also known as Don Martin, an artist from Corpus Christi, Texas, now residing in Italy.

◦ Don Martin shares his background, mentioning his 40+ years of playing guitar and his transition to making trap music six years ago.

◦ Don Martin describes his musical journey from playing in rock and metal bands to incorporating modern urban music like rap.

◦ Speaker 1 shares his background as a professional music artist and sound engineer, highlighting his experience with various music genres.

• Inspirations and Musical Journey (2:37)

◦ Don Martin discusses his inspiration from Neil Peart, the drummer from Rush, and his experience seeing Rush live in 1982.

◦ Speaker 1 shares his own experience of seeing Rush live in 1982 and the impact it had on his musical career.

◦ The conversation shifts to the influence of classic rock bands like Rush and the unique elements of their performances, such as Neil Peart's drum solos.

◦ Don Martin and Speaker 1 discuss the evolution of rock music and the incorporation of urban styles like rap.

• First Hip Hop Project and Collaborations (6:51)

◦ Don Martin credits Mr. Doreen Green from D Green Films for introducing him to the rap music scene.

◦ He shares his first experience with Mexican OT in Louisiana and his subsequent collaborations with him on songs like "September the 8th," "Cowboy Killer," and "Missed Calls."

◦ Speaker 1 and Don Martin discuss the influence of Mexican OT and other Texas artists on the hip hop scene.

◦ Don Martin explains that he does not rap but plays guitar and contributes to the production of the songs.

• Challenges and Personal Stories (84:38)

◦ Don Martin shares his personal story of growing up in an impoverished neighborhood in Corpus Christi and his struggles with the juvenile justice system.

◦ He discusses his time in the Texas Youth Commission and his eventual release and enlistment in the United States Navy.

◦ Speaker 1 shares his own challenging upbringing, including dealing with an abusive father and turning to gangs and drugs.

◦ Both discuss the impact of their experiences on their music and their commitment to overcoming their past.

• Musical Philosophy and Future Plans (84:54)

◦ Don Martin expresses his belief in the therapeutic value of music and how it helps him cope with his mental health challenges.

◦ He discusses his preference for using live instruments in his music and the unique sound they bring compared to digital production.

◦ Don Martin shares his plans to release more music in 2026 and his goal of creating a full album.

◦ Speaker 1 and Don Martin discuss the benefits of being an independent artist and the challenges of working with major labels.

• Cultural and Personal Connections (85:25)

◦ Don Martin and Speaker 1 discuss their shared experiences of growing up in impoverished neighborhoods and dealing with mental health issues.

◦ They talk about the importance of skills over medication in managing their conditions.

◦ Don Martin shares his background as a first-generation American and the influence of his Mexican and Louisiana roots.

◦ Speaker 1 and Don Martin discuss their shared passion for music and their commitment to creating meaningful art.

• Collaboration and Future Projects (86:06)

◦ Don Martin expresses his interest in collaborating with Matt and other artists on future projects.They discuss the potential for recording live music and incorporating different musical elements.Don Martin shares his plans to visit Alameda, California, in 2026 and the possibility of working with Suuii and other artists. Matt offers to send Don Martin his music for potential collaboration and expresses his excitement for future collaborations.